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How to Grow an Audience When No One Seems to Listen

53 min episode · 2 min read
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Zeke Skye

Episode

53 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Productivity, Health & Wellness, Marketing

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Key Takeaways

  • Social media durability over physical venues: COVID exposed physical music venues as vulnerable while internet infrastructure proved durable. Sky pivoted entirely to digital presence, recognizing direct artist-to-fan interaction through social platforms represents the future model for musicians and brands.
  • Ad testing with limited budget: Sky ran ads for approximately $1,000 yearly, testing 10 video variations to identify top performers. He left the best-performing content running for a year, focusing on cost-per-click to YouTube rather than spreading budget across multiple campaigns simultaneously.
  • Process-focused goals over outcome metrics: Sky advocates setting victory conditions around constant growth and meaningful work rather than specific follower counts or record deals. He emphasizes that achievement milestones become normal quickly, making process commitment more sustainable than chasing external validation or material rewards.
  • Niche carving through persona clarity: Sky combined fitness content, guitar performance, and inspirational messaging because it authentically represented him, not as calculated persona building. He focused on defining success parameters within his specific niche rather than broadly picking a category, creating distinction in heavy metal's crowded landscape.

What It Covers

Heavy metal musician Zeke Sky explains how he built a social media following during COVID by focusing on Instagram and Facebook ads, spending $5,000-6,000 over years while creating music videos and maintaining consistent posting.

Key Questions Answered

  • Social media durability over physical venues: COVID exposed physical music venues as vulnerable while internet infrastructure proved durable. Sky pivoted entirely to digital presence, recognizing direct artist-to-fan interaction through social platforms represents the future model for musicians and brands.
  • Ad testing with limited budget: Sky ran ads for approximately $1,000 yearly, testing 10 video variations to identify top performers. He left the best-performing content running for a year, focusing on cost-per-click to YouTube rather than spreading budget across multiple campaigns simultaneously.
  • Process-focused goals over outcome metrics: Sky advocates setting victory conditions around constant growth and meaningful work rather than specific follower counts or record deals. He emphasizes that achievement milestones become normal quickly, making process commitment more sustainable than chasing external validation or material rewards.
  • Niche carving through persona clarity: Sky combined fitness content, guitar performance, and inspirational messaging because it authentically represented him, not as calculated persona building. He focused on defining success parameters within his specific niche rather than broadly picking a category, creating distinction in heavy metal's crowded landscape.

Notable Moment

Sky describes reaching 20,000 Instagram and 100,000 Facebook followers as creating an addictive mental state requiring deliberate recalibration. He compares the dopamine rush from thousands of likes per post to Gollum finding the ring, acknowledging the psychological difficulty of maintaining perspective.

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Episode Transcript

What happens if you take three struggling freelance marketers, lock them in a seventeenth century cottage, and don't let them live until we fix their businesses? In August, I rented an old cottage in rural Ireland and invited copywriter Rob, ecommerce designer Laura, and book coach Vicky, three freelancers desperate to stand the fuck out. And over two days, I ripped everything apart, their offers, their messaging, their branding, their lead gen, to find what was really holding them back. This is the concept of a new YouTube channel that I'm launching. You can watch the first episode for free right now. It's half an hour long. It's supposed to be entertaining as well as practical. I hope you'll enjoy watching it. So please set half an hour aside to watch it around your morning coffee, breakfast, lunch break, or on the bus or at the gym, whatever. The link to access this new YouTube channel is in the episode show notes. I really, really appreciate you taking the time to watch it. And then, you know, the usual to like it, comment, to share, talk about it around you if you like it. Thank you so much. The first thing that I realized is I had to be ruthless, like, totally 100% ruthless, and I had to do whatever was in my power to try to make the things happen that I want. I think that you really, really have to soul search within yourself before you do any of this. And you have to decide, like, am I really willing to sacrifice here? And welcome to another episode of everyone hates marketers.com, the no fluff, actionable marketing podcast for people sick of marketing bullshit. I'm your host, Louis Grenier. In today's episode, you'll learn how this heavy metal musician built a big following, carved a niche within a niche, and built a powerhouse personal brand. My guest today has the hair of an elf from Lord of the Rings, the body of Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime, the musical talent of Black Sabbath in the seventies, and the marketing brains of Seth Godin. He's a guitarist, pianist, vocalist, and composer, and he's taken over the heavy metal slash psychedelic rock universe by storm the last few years. That's why I'm super happy to have him on board. Zeke Skye, welcome aboard, man. Hey, man. It's great to be here with you today, dude. So I actually did my research, and I looked at when was Arnold Schwarzenegger at his prime in terms of body. And it was in 1970. And then I look at you now, and I can I can't see any difference? So well done on that beautiful work of art. Without being sarcastic, truly, I know how much it fucking takes to build muscle. And so yeah. Congrats on that. But anyway, moving on. Do you have a real job on top of being a musician? I teach music. That was a cheeky question because …

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