#2426 - Cameron Hanes & Adam Greentree
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194 min
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2 min
AI-Generated Summary
Key Takeaways
- ✓Wildlife Management Economics: California kills over 100 mountain lions annually through depredation permits at taxpayer expense, while neighboring states like Utah allow year-round hunting with just a hunting license, generating revenue while effectively controlling populations through hunter participation and mandatory check-ins within 48 hours.
- ✓Predator Impact Data: Mountain lions in California consume 50% dogs and cats based on diet analysis from culled animals, with individual lions killing approximately 50 deer annually. Japan faces record bear attacks with 13 fatalities and 200 injuries in 2025 after hunting bans created unmanaged populations requiring military intervention.
- ✓Backcountry Logistics Strategy: Successful wilderness elk hunts require coordinating multiple packers who can cover miles of terrain overnight. Hanes' Oregon hunt involved eight men packing 300 pounds of boned meat plus gear, demonstrating that remote hunting success depends on building networks of capable individuals willing to deploy on short notice.
- ✓Hunting Shot Calculations: Shooting steep downhill angles requires understanding rangefinder compensation—a 60-yard straight-down shot reads as 42 yards because gravity affects arrow trajectory differently. Hunters must account for wind thermals that shift at sunset, sun position affecting visibility, and animal behavior when planning approach routes and shooting lanes.
- ✓Modern Longevity Advantage: Current 50-60 year old hunters combine 40 years of accumulated field experience with stem cell treatments, IV therapies, and optimized supplementation to maintain peak physical performance, creating an unprecedented window where wisdom and physical capability align for maximum hunting effectiveness that previous generations never achieved.
What It Covers
Joe Rogan, Cameron Hanes, and Adam Greentree discuss mountain lion and grizzly bear management, the necessity of hunting for wildlife population control, backcountry elk hunting challenges, and how modern society disconnects people from natural survival experiences that define human fulfillment.
Key Questions Answered
- •Wildlife Management Economics: California kills over 100 mountain lions annually through depredation permits at taxpayer expense, while neighboring states like Utah allow year-round hunting with just a hunting license, generating revenue while effectively controlling populations through hunter participation and mandatory check-ins within 48 hours.
- •Predator Impact Data: Mountain lions in California consume 50% dogs and cats based on diet analysis from culled animals, with individual lions killing approximately 50 deer annually. Japan faces record bear attacks with 13 fatalities and 200 injuries in 2025 after hunting bans created unmanaged populations requiring military intervention.
- •Backcountry Logistics Strategy: Successful wilderness elk hunts require coordinating multiple packers who can cover miles of terrain overnight. Hanes' Oregon hunt involved eight men packing 300 pounds of boned meat plus gear, demonstrating that remote hunting success depends on building networks of capable individuals willing to deploy on short notice.
- •Hunting Shot Calculations: Shooting steep downhill angles requires understanding rangefinder compensation—a 60-yard straight-down shot reads as 42 yards because gravity affects arrow trajectory differently. Hunters must account for wind thermals that shift at sunset, sun position affecting visibility, and animal behavior when planning approach routes and shooting lanes.
- •Modern Longevity Advantage: Current 50-60 year old hunters combine 40 years of accumulated field experience with stem cell treatments, IV therapies, and optimized supplementation to maintain peak physical performance, creating an unprecedented window where wisdom and physical capability align for maximum hunting effectiveness that previous generations never achieved.
Notable Moment
Hanes' brother Taylor encountered a mountain lion while running at night in Lake Forest, California, just half a mile from the city. The lion pursued him for over 100 yards despite aggressive deterrence attempts, forcing him to repeatedly turn and scream while kicking rocks, nearly accepting death before the animal finally broke off the chase.
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