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#260 – Growing Multiple Products to $18k/mo Revenue with Tony Dinh

67 min episode · 2 min read
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Tony Dinh,Growing Multiple Products

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67 min

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2 min

Topics

Productivity, Startups, Marketing

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Key Takeaways

  • Pre-launch validation strategy: Build side projects while employed until reaching $300-400 monthly recurring revenue, then quit only when confident of reaching $1,000-2,000 within one year. Tony had savings and low Vietnam living costs ($1,000/month) as safety net before leaving his $10,000/month Singapore job.
  • Twitter product-market fit advantage: Create products for the platform where your audience lives. Blackmagic grew from $300 to $10,000 monthly revenue because Tony built Twitter tools for Twitter users, creating natural viral loops like real-time banner updates showing recent followers, driving organic signups without paid marketing.
  • Launch preparation tactics: Three days before Product Hunt launch, tweet asking followers if they want notification when you go live. Manually direct message everyone who replies. This pre-launch engagement strategy leverages existing audience to generate immediate traction and reviews, rather than launching cold to strangers with no momentum.
  • Pay-once model for Mac apps: Sell desktop applications with one-time purchase for current version, charging upgrade fees for major updates later. This model works for DevUtils and Znapper because users resist subscriptions for utility tools, while still providing sustainable revenue through version upgrades over time.
  • Visual creativity drives virality: Build products with inherently shareable visual elements that prompt questions. Znapper screenshots with gradient backgrounds naturally make people ask how you created them. Focus on making tools that look different from existing solutions, triggering curiosity rather than just solving problems functionally.

What It Covers

Tony Dinh grew multiple products from side projects to $18,000 monthly revenue in one year after quitting his $10,000/month job, leveraging Twitter audience building and solving his own problems through DevUtils, Blackmagic, and Znapper.

Key Questions Answered

  • Pre-launch validation strategy: Build side projects while employed until reaching $300-400 monthly recurring revenue, then quit only when confident of reaching $1,000-2,000 within one year. Tony had savings and low Vietnam living costs ($1,000/month) as safety net before leaving his $10,000/month Singapore job.
  • Twitter product-market fit advantage: Create products for the platform where your audience lives. Blackmagic grew from $300 to $10,000 monthly revenue because Tony built Twitter tools for Twitter users, creating natural viral loops like real-time banner updates showing recent followers, driving organic signups without paid marketing.
  • Launch preparation tactics: Three days before Product Hunt launch, tweet asking followers if they want notification when you go live. Manually direct message everyone who replies. This pre-launch engagement strategy leverages existing audience to generate immediate traction and reviews, rather than launching cold to strangers with no momentum.
  • Pay-once model for Mac apps: Sell desktop applications with one-time purchase for current version, charging upgrade fees for major updates later. This model works for DevUtils and Znapper because users resist subscriptions for utility tools, while still providing sustainable revenue through version upgrades over time.
  • Visual creativity drives virality: Build products with inherently shareable visual elements that prompt questions. Znapper screenshots with gradient backgrounds naturally make people ask how you created them. Focus on making tools that look different from existing solutions, triggering curiosity rather than just solving problems functionally.

Notable Moment

Tony rejected a $40,000 acquisition offer for Blackmagic at $300 monthly revenue because he already envisioned the Chrome extension feature that would triple revenue. He realized selling would prevent building similar products and the money was not life-changing after taxes.

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Episode Transcript

Hey, man. What's up? I should not be awake right now. I feel terrible. I barely got any sleep last night. I'm, like, I'm like the living dead right now. Hey. What's up, Chen? Hello. Hello, Tony. Hello, Chen Ning. Hello, Colin. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you for having me. What what time is it where you are? You're in, in Ho Chi Minh City. Right? Yeah. I'm in Ho Chi Minh City. It's, 11PM now. Yeah. And are you, like, typically a night owl? Like, what kind of hours do you work? I usually, stay up at late until midnight and then, go to work at around that hour. So, this is the last hour of my usual day. But for today, I think we can go a little bit further than that. It's totally fine. Yeah. I appreciate you making the time. Channing, I I pitched Tony. I was like, hey. Can we we can do the episode anytime between, like, one to, you know, 3PM Pacific time because I'm just an arrogant American. It just assumes that everyone goes on Pacific time. Everyone should get on that time. I'm in I'm in Vietnam. That's gonna be, like, like, 3AM for me. Like, I can't do that. Yeah. But I am glad that, it's it's, 9AM for you. Right? Are you also a night, night owl or early bird? I'm like, both. I have an excellently healthy sleep schedule where I stay up super late and then I wake up really early. Wow. Get, like, four or five hours of sleep every night. It's actually it's horrible. I don't recommend it. Wow. You're still doing that now? You're still doing it now? I I remember you mentioned that in one of the earlier episode, but still now you're still doing it. I've got a Whoop, which is like do you see this wristband? I don't know. It's got like a fitness device, like a Fitbit or an Apple watch that, like, records all your stats. And I can go through and I can see, like, my average sleep every week or every month, and it's horrible. So, like, yesterday, I got four and a half hours of sleep. What? This month, I'm at this month, I'm averaging what am I averaging? We're in a group. Channing's in my group group with me along with his girlfriend and some of my friends. I'm averaging five hours and eleven minutes of sleep. No, man. You I know. Five hours and five in July. And I I don't even have any sort of, like, bragging, like, oh, like, I I can't say, like, this is, like, hustle porn. I'm not, like, staying up late to work. Maybe it's just like my workout. Nature. My theory my theory is that Cortland doesn't have a very good ability to sense the way that his body feels. And so the negative effects of getting terrible sleep just don't immediately affect him. …

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    by Tony Dinh

    Tony Dinh grew multiple products from side projects to $18,000 monthly revenue in one year after quitting his $10,000/month job, leveraging Twitter audience building and solving his own problems through DevUtils, Blackmagic, and Znapper.
  • ZnapperBy guest

    by Tony Dinh

    Tony Dinh grew multiple products from side projects to $18,000 monthly revenue in one year after quitting his $10,000/month job, leveraging Twitter audience building and solving his own problems through DevUtils, Blackmagic, and Znapper.

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