#283 – Making $8k/mo Targeting $100M/yr with Lukas and Liz Hermann of StageTimer.io

What's up, dude? Yo. What's going on, man? Who who do we got today? Liz What's it? And Lucas Herman. I'm excited about this. The Hermans. You know what I'm excited about, Luke? And his wife, Liz, they're sort of a team running this this company together. Mhmm. Their app I think they make $8,000 a month. That was back in January, so maybe it's more now. They have, like, this very simple tool that I think anybody would look at and be like, I could build this in, like, a weekend. You know? I could build this in, like you know? And usually, it's not a weekend. It'll, like, six months or something. But I could build this very easily by myself, but they're making, like, a 100 k a year from it. Right. And, also, like, that's, like I mean, he was working as a software engineer. I think he went to college. He was a software engineer. He was making, like, 80 k a year at a start up. You know? Getting underpaid by a start up, and he quit that, and now he's making more than that as an indie hacker from something very simple that he bootstrapped with his wife, and he doesn't owe anybody any money. He's just basically free. He's living the anti hacker dream. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I feel like that detail of, like, it looks really simple on the from the surface. I've been seeing that everywhere lately. Like, I've we posted a couple of stories of people that are building AI companies, and every single comment section has one or two people going, wait a minute. This is just two API calls. That's it? Yeah. It's super simple. Well, AI is, like, next level. Like, I was posting about AI, I think, a couple days ago because I've got this, like, new bot or Anderson Cooper bot who basically is, like, an AI journalist who sends us, like, like, little reviews of people's submissions and writing and tells us How what ratio of your time are you spending figuring out the names of these bots versus actually filling the bots? Yeah. It's, like, fifty fifty, I would say. It's hard to come up with good bot names, but I think use the bots to name the bots? I should. I've tried it. I swear to god, I put names in the GPT four. It sucks. I mean, you've tried to use it for creative writing. It's not that good at No. Coming up with, like, creative writing. It's not that good at being funny. It's part partially is in the prompt, but, yeah, creative writing. Yeah. It'll it'll, like, get your creative juices flowing. It's, like, good for brainstorming. But, anyway, I mean, I I posted about the spot, and people keep asking me, like, oh, open source it, write a guide. I'm like, no. No. No. Like, it's, like, not that much code. Like, the vast majority …