#252 – A New Co-Host and a New Direction for the Pod

What's up, everybody? This is Cortland from ndhackers.com, and you're listening to the n d hackers podcast. More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a lot of money in the process. And on this show, I sit down with these n d hackers to discuss the ideas, the opportunities, and the strategies they're taking advantage of so the rest of us can do the same. I'm so happy you're my cohost. I tweeted last week that I've been trying to convince you to become my cohost, and I don't I don't really know how you felt. But you seem kind of excited about it. And honestly, like, I've not been this excited to actually do the podcast in a long time. Like, I really I've been doing the podcast for four years. Five years now since 2017. And I think it got kinda boring to me, like, two years in. You know, there's some interesting episodes. There's some episodes that are boring. But I think what never went away was this feeling of anxiety that I get recording the show because it's always been a guest focused show. I always bring on guests. Most of the time, they're first time guests, and I have no idea whether they're gonna do a good job or not. And that just gives me, like, mild anxiety. I don't like to worry about that. And so I've been trying to find different ways to make the show fun for me to run forever, and literally nothing has worked. But what's always fun for me, what's never not fun for me is when you and I get on a call and talk about indie hackers, talk about our lives, talk about what we're working on. And so I think the best thing we could possibly do for this show, at least for it to be fun for me, is to bring you on as my cohost and just literally completely change the entire format. Well, it's fun for you. Okay. But what about the calculus of what's fun for the audience? What makes you think that they're gonna wanna listen to me coming on and riffing about random ideas with you? I think people will like it. I think you're an intelligent guy. You're super smart. You're the most well read person that I know possibly in terms of how often you read books. Most of the books that I read come from you. You just tell me that you read a good book, and then I start reading that book. You know a lot about anti hackers and business and startups, so you can riff with me. We obviously have good chemistry. You know what you're willing to do that almost nobody is? You're willing to call me on my bullshit. Like, you will call me out because you're my twin brother, and you've been calling me out for thirty five years and vice versa. There's maybe been one or …