The Simplest Way to Save Lives With Your Money
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65 min
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3 min
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Health & Wellness, Investing, Startups
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Key Takeaways
- ✓Cost-effectiveness measurement: GiveWell uses a standardized metric comparing programs by cost per death averted, determining that top-recommended charities like Against Malaria Foundation achieve roughly three times more impact per dollar than direct cash transfers through GiveDirectly. This quantitative approach enables donors to maximize lives saved with limited resources, though it requires difficult subjective judgments about weighing health gains against income improvements and other quality-of-life factors across different intervention types.
- ✓Top charity portfolio: GiveWell's four top charities for 2025 include Against Malaria Foundation for bed net distribution, Malaria Consortium for seasonal chemoprevention medication, Helen Keller International for vitamin A supplementation to children aged six months to five years, and New Incentives for cash incentives encouraging childhood immunizations. These represent the strongest combination of rigorous evidence, proven track record, and transparent data among 70 organizations receiving GiveWell-directed funds totaling over two billion dollars since inception.
- ✓Measurement failure case study: GiveWell supported No Lean Season, a program providing small cash incentives for Bangladeshi rural workers to migrate seasonally to cities based on positive randomized controlled trial results. When scaled from 2,000 participants to 100,000, the program failed because microfinance loan officers delivering incentives selected people already likely to migrate rather than those needing encouragement. This demonstrates how implementation challenges at scale can undermine interventions with strong initial evidence, requiring ongoing measurement and willingness to shut down ineffective programs.
- ✓Foreign aid impact assessment: The Trump administration's USAID cuts reduced global health funding by approximately six billion dollars annually, representing a 50 percent decrease from the previous twelve billion dollar budget and eliminating 10 percent of total global health aid worldwide. GiveWell responded by directing 40 million dollars to fill immediate gaps in malaria control, malnutrition treatment, and basic health services. One Malawi hospital administrator described patients lining up for HIV treatment being turned away when staff were sent home the morning cuts took effect.
- ✓Data infrastructure collapse: The demographic and health surveys funded by USAID for decades provide nationally representative data that governments use for resource allocation decisions like determining school and teacher needs by district. These surveys also enable organizations like GiveWell to make evidence-based funding recommendations. The elimination of this data collection under aid cuts creates cascading problems for both immediate humanitarian response assessment and long-term program evaluation, forcing philanthropies to consider funding basic data infrastructure previously supported by government.
What It Covers
Ezra Klein interviews Elie Hassenfeld, CEO and co-founder of GiveWell, about evidence-based charitable giving. They discuss how GiveWell evaluates global health charities through rigorous cost-benefit analysis and randomized controlled trials, the organization's top charity recommendations including malaria prevention and vitamin supplementation, and how the Trump administration's foreign aid cuts have created new funding gaps requiring $40 million in emergency philanthropic response.
Key Questions Answered
- •Cost-effectiveness measurement: GiveWell uses a standardized metric comparing programs by cost per death averted, determining that top-recommended charities like Against Malaria Foundation achieve roughly three times more impact per dollar than direct cash transfers through GiveDirectly. This quantitative approach enables donors to maximize lives saved with limited resources, though it requires difficult subjective judgments about weighing health gains against income improvements and other quality-of-life factors across different intervention types.
- •Top charity portfolio: GiveWell's four top charities for 2025 include Against Malaria Foundation for bed net distribution, Malaria Consortium for seasonal chemoprevention medication, Helen Keller International for vitamin A supplementation to children aged six months to five years, and New Incentives for cash incentives encouraging childhood immunizations. These represent the strongest combination of rigorous evidence, proven track record, and transparent data among 70 organizations receiving GiveWell-directed funds totaling over two billion dollars since inception.
- •Measurement failure case study: GiveWell supported No Lean Season, a program providing small cash incentives for Bangladeshi rural workers to migrate seasonally to cities based on positive randomized controlled trial results. When scaled from 2,000 participants to 100,000, the program failed because microfinance loan officers delivering incentives selected people already likely to migrate rather than those needing encouragement. This demonstrates how implementation challenges at scale can undermine interventions with strong initial evidence, requiring ongoing measurement and willingness to shut down ineffective programs.
- •Foreign aid impact assessment: The Trump administration's USAID cuts reduced global health funding by approximately six billion dollars annually, representing a 50 percent decrease from the previous twelve billion dollar budget and eliminating 10 percent of total global health aid worldwide. GiveWell responded by directing 40 million dollars to fill immediate gaps in malaria control, malnutrition treatment, and basic health services. One Malawi hospital administrator described patients lining up for HIV treatment being turned away when staff were sent home the morning cuts took effect.
- •Data infrastructure collapse: The demographic and health surveys funded by USAID for decades provide nationally representative data that governments use for resource allocation decisions like determining school and teacher needs by district. These surveys also enable organizations like GiveWell to make evidence-based funding recommendations. The elimination of this data collection under aid cuts creates cascading problems for both immediate humanitarian response assessment and long-term program evaluation, forcing philanthropies to consider funding basic data infrastructure previously supported by government.
- •Donation allocation strategy: GiveWell offers three giving options with different risk-reward profiles: the top charities fund commits money quickly to four proven organizations, the all grants fund provides flexibility to support 70 organizations including newer programs with higher risk but potentially greater impact, and unrestricted donations allow GiveWell to allocate between operating expenses and grants. Donors giving 10 percent of income to high-impact global health causes while maintaining local charitable commitments can significantly increase total lives saved without requiring extreme personal sacrifice.
Notable Moment
Hassenfeld describes visiting a rural Malawi clinic where staff pulled up computer screens showing viral load testing for HIV patients dropped from hundreds monthly to nearly zero immediately following aid cuts. Hospital administrators had to reassign staff from other departments to prevent treatment interruptions, with some workers matching pill boxes patients brought to medications on shelves because proper protocols collapsed overnight when funding disappeared without warning.
Episode Transcript
It's a holiday season. And at New York Times opinion, Nick Kristoff, many years ago, kicked off a tradition, which I love. It's one of my favorite parts about being here, where different columnists and and parts of the organization offer up their recommendations for giving, try to make people aware of charities, philanthropies. They might wanna support where money that they can spare might do a tremendous amount of good. In my personal giving every year, I give some of the money I'm giving to a local charity, but then I give a lot of it to GiveWell. And the reason I give it to GiveWell is that of every organization I know of, I have the most trust in them to vet, to run the experiments, to read the research, to really figure out where my money will go the furthest in helping other people. GiveAll has not been around that long, but in the time they've been around, they've become a pretty big channeler of givers funds for this exact reason because a lot of people trust the work they do because it is so transparent, because it is so rigorous. Billions of dollars have ended up being given through them. And so I am recommending that if you have money to spare, you consider giving some of it through GiveWell, which you can do at givewell.org. But I thought as a way to talk about this rather than writing a column, I would have GiveWell's CEO and one of its founders, Elie Hassenfeld, on the show to talk about how GiveWell started, how it does its work, how it makes some of its very arguable and very difficult decisions in terms of what to recommend and what not to recommend, and how givers themselves should think about donating money to whom, to where, and under what conditions as we all sort of wrestle with how we can do a little bit more good in a world that needs a lot more good done. As always, my email is reclineshow@nytimes.com. Eli Hausenfeld, welcome to the show. Great to be here. So I wanna start a little bit before your work at GiveWell. When I was looking into the show, you studied religion at college, which is not what I would expect necessarily from somebody who goes on to work at a hedge fund and then become an apostle of cost benefit analysis and randomized controlled trials. So religion, why? I think in an alternative life, I'm not doing what I'm doing here at GiveWell, and instead, I'm a academic studying the Talmud. It was something that, at the time, I was incredibly interested in. And in college, I spent a lot of time in Talmud courses, studying other religious texts and Judaism and otherwise. And I just found it incredibly fulfilling and interesting to think about how people had tried to answer questions about their lives. What is the Talmud for people who don't know, and what …
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- Against Malaria FoundationRecommended
“GiveWell's four top charities for 2025 include Against Malaria Foundation for bed net distribution...representing the strongest combination of rigorous evidence, proven track record, and transparent data.”
- Malaria ConsortiumRecommended
“GiveWell's four top charities for 2025 include Against Malaria Foundation for bed net distribution, Malaria Consortium for seasonal chemoprevention medication.”
- New IncentivesRecommended
“GiveWell's four top charities for 2025 include...New Incentives for cash incentives encouraging childhood immunizations.”
- Helen Keller InternationalRecommended
“GiveWell's four top charities for 2025 include...Helen Keller International for vitamin A supplementation to children aged six months to five years.”
“GiveWell supported No Lean Season, a program providing small cash incentives for Bangladeshi rural workers to migrate seasonally to cities based on positive randomized controlled trial results.”
“GiveWell uses a standardized metric comparing programs by cost per death averted, determining that top-recommended charities like Against Malaria Foundation achieve roughly three times more impact per dollar than direct cash transfers through GiveDirectly.”
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