How to talk about peace
Episode
49 min
Read time
2 min
Topics
Career Growth, Health & Wellness, Relationships
AI-Generated Summary
Key Takeaways
- ✓Credible Messenger Strategy: Newark reduced homicides from 103 in 2014 to 37 in 2024 by hiring 16 ex-gang members and formerly incarcerated individuals as community ambassadors. These credible messengers used relationship capital to mediate gang disputes, run safe passage programs for students, and operate trauma recovery centers. Residents in low-income urban communities are 15 times more likely to experience violence but three times less likely to receive help.
- ✓Peace Treaty Maintenance Protocol: After the Watts ceasefire, any shooting triggered immediate phone calls between gang leaders to investigate before retaliation. They researched each incident to determine if it was personal conflict or neighborhood-based. This verification system prevented automatic revenge cycles that previously caused escalation. The key was consistently returning to the table to renegotiate terms whenever violence occurred, not abandoning the agreement after setbacks.
- ✓Life Skills Infrastructure: Following the treaty signing, organizers secured contracts to run zero period classes at Locke High School for gang-involved students struggling with credits. They established life skills training in all four housing projects teaching financial management and decision-making. The Community Self-Determination Institute employed over 80 individuals with millions in city, county, and state contracts providing computer skills and dropout prevention services across the neighborhood.
- ✓Shooter Inclusion Requirement: Peace negotiations stalled until organizers brought the actual shooters to the table, representing less than five percent of gang members but committing most homicides. These individuals had to make the ceasefire agreement for it to hold legitimacy. The initial terms were simple: stay in your own neighborhood, give each other a pass when meeting on streets, and no interference with each other's business operations.
- ✓Dual Narrative Framework: Aziz Abusara cofounded Mejdi Tours in 2009 to create citizen diplomat movements through dual narrative tours where Israeli and Palestinian guides co-lead groups. This framework provides structured context for asking difficult questions about historical narratives. His father's question about the Holocaust at a peace meeting, though initially shocking, led to 70 Palestinians visiting the Holocaust Memorial and Israelis later visiting a destroyed Palestinian town from 1948.
What It Covers
This episode examines peacemaking through the 1992 Watts gang truce between Crips and Bloods. Activist Akela Shirelles details negotiating the historic treaty that reduced gang homicides by 44 percent in two years. The episode also features Israeli and Palestinian peace activists Maoz Inon and Aziz Abusara discussing reconciliation after October 7th attacks.
Key Questions Answered
- •Credible Messenger Strategy: Newark reduced homicides from 103 in 2014 to 37 in 2024 by hiring 16 ex-gang members and formerly incarcerated individuals as community ambassadors. These credible messengers used relationship capital to mediate gang disputes, run safe passage programs for students, and operate trauma recovery centers. Residents in low-income urban communities are 15 times more likely to experience violence but three times less likely to receive help.
- •Peace Treaty Maintenance Protocol: After the Watts ceasefire, any shooting triggered immediate phone calls between gang leaders to investigate before retaliation. They researched each incident to determine if it was personal conflict or neighborhood-based. This verification system prevented automatic revenge cycles that previously caused escalation. The key was consistently returning to the table to renegotiate terms whenever violence occurred, not abandoning the agreement after setbacks.
- •Life Skills Infrastructure: Following the treaty signing, organizers secured contracts to run zero period classes at Locke High School for gang-involved students struggling with credits. They established life skills training in all four housing projects teaching financial management and decision-making. The Community Self-Determination Institute employed over 80 individuals with millions in city, county, and state contracts providing computer skills and dropout prevention services across the neighborhood.
- •Shooter Inclusion Requirement: Peace negotiations stalled until organizers brought the actual shooters to the table, representing less than five percent of gang members but committing most homicides. These individuals had to make the ceasefire agreement for it to hold legitimacy. The initial terms were simple: stay in your own neighborhood, give each other a pass when meeting on streets, and no interference with each other's business operations.
- •Dual Narrative Framework: Aziz Abusara cofounded Mejdi Tours in 2009 to create citizen diplomat movements through dual narrative tours where Israeli and Palestinian guides co-lead groups. This framework provides structured context for asking difficult questions about historical narratives. His father's question about the Holocaust at a peace meeting, though initially shocking, led to 70 Palestinians visiting the Holocaust Memorial and Israelis later visiting a destroyed Palestinian town from 1948.
Notable Moment
After his son Terrell was murdered in 2004, Akela Shirelles drove to the housing projects where gang members were gathering to retaliate. He stopped the planned revenge killing, stating that harming another parent would not bring closure. Some questioned whether he truly loved his son for refusing retaliation, but he chose to harness his son's life force for transformative work rather than perpetuate the cycle.
Episode Transcript
This is the TED Radio Hour. Each week groundbreaking TED Talks. Our job now is to dream big. Delivered at TED conferences. To bring about the future we want to see. Around the world. To understand who we are. From those talks, we bring you speakers and ideas that will surprise you. You just don't know what you're gonna find. Challenge you. We truly have to ask ourselves, like, why is it noteworthy? And even change you. I literally feel like I'm a different person. Yes. Do you feel that way? Ideas worth spreading from TED and NPR. I'm Manoush Zomorodi. Right now, conflict sometimes violent conflict is in the headlines, in our feeds and, for some of us, right outside the front door. And when politics feels this charged, the idea of making peace, well, it can sound pretty naive. So how do people, parties or even nations at odds reconcile with each other? Where do they even begin? Today, we are breaking down the slow, intentional steps that move people away from violence and toward cooperation. And we're doing it by going back to a moment in American history, Los Angeles 1992. That year, something almost unimaginable happened. Leaders from the two biggest gangs, the Crips and the Bloods, managed to end a years long deadly feud that had killed thousands of people. The two parties negotiated a peace treaty. But how? Change moves at the speed of trust, right? Deep relationships and trust. This is Akela Shirelles. And I consider myself to be a peacemaker. In the 1980s, Akila was a kid growing up in L. A. When a cheap, very addictive drug started seeping into cities across The U. S. Crack cocaine. It turned his neighborhood into a marketplace for dealers, dealers who would defend their turf with violence. Crack cocaine came through the neighborhood like Hurricane Katrina. It uprooted families. I mean, it decimated the neighborhood. You know, you had individuals who was hustling and selling dope that were making, you know, tens of thousands of dollars more money than they ever made in their entire life. And so, you know, people started buying, went from 22, you know, handguns to, you know, nine millimeters in AK 40 sevens and tech nines. And it became a war zone. And that rage and anger, because there was no therapeutic services, no counseling, nothing offered to us to help us to heal from the traumatic experiences that we were all witnessing. Warfare between gangs was a normal part of life for Akilah, who lived in the Jordan Downs housing projects in the Watts neighborhood of LA. He remembers being in middle school at the time. Markham Junior High School, we called Gladiator School. You know, ninth grade year at Markham, my best friend, Ronsel Pointer, was shot in the head and killed, you know, at lunchtime on campus. In Watts, the four housing projects were each associated with either the Bloods or the Crips. If you wear …
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