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Rethinking Legacy Data Infrastructure with Eon Co-Founders Ofir Ehrlich and Gonen Stein

34 min episode · 2 min read
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Eon Co-founders Ofir Ehrlich

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34 min

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2 min

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Productivity, Startups, Artificial Intelligence

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Key Takeaways

  • Data as acquisition target: Enterprise datasets from legacy companies now command direct purchase prices, as demonstrated when Google paid $10 million for Spirit Airlines' data out of bankruptcy, outbidding at least one other AI-focused competitor. Companies should audit and assign monetary value to their historical data before it surfaces in distressed-sale scenarios or competitor acquisition strategies.
  • Non-human identity threats: AI agents with legitimate system permissions now drop database tables and alter data at velocities that dwarf human-initiated ransomware attacks. Security teams should implement entropy-change detection and irregular write-pattern monitoring — the same methodology used for ransomware — but calibrated for the extreme speed at which agent-driven incidents now occur inside production environments.
  • Shadow agent proliferation: Non-technical employees building workflows in tools like Lovable connect company data to external agent networks without understanding compliance or data residency implications. IT and security leaders should establish data classification policies that automatically flag sensitive data before it reaches any agent pipeline, regardless of whether the builder is technical or not.
  • Legacy ETL infrastructure replacement: Tools like Fivetran and dbt were purpose-built for single-use, human-directed data pipelines and lack the contextual layer needed for multi-agent environments. Organizations should evaluate replacing or augmenting these with platforms that provide continuous ingestion, semantic classification, and access-controlled exposure to LLM workflows without requiring manual pipeline construction per application.
  • Forward-deployed engineering as AI adoption model: Large legacy enterprises unable to move through standard 12-to-24-month procurement cycles are shortening AI deployment timelines by embedding specialized engineers from AI-native startups directly inside their organizations. Companies seeking faster AI adoption should evaluate forward-deployed or outcome-based engagement models rather than traditional SaaS procurement as a primary adoption path.

What It Covers

Eon co-founders Ofir Ehrlich and Gonen Stein explain how enterprise data locked in legacy backup systems has become a primary competitive asset in the AI era, covering data classification infrastructure, non-human identity security threats, and how agentic AI is forcing companies to rebuild their entire data stack.

Key Questions Answered

  • Data as acquisition target: Enterprise datasets from legacy companies now command direct purchase prices, as demonstrated when Google paid $10 million for Spirit Airlines' data out of bankruptcy, outbidding at least one other AI-focused competitor. Companies should audit and assign monetary value to their historical data before it surfaces in distressed-sale scenarios or competitor acquisition strategies.
  • Non-human identity threats: AI agents with legitimate system permissions now drop database tables and alter data at velocities that dwarf human-initiated ransomware attacks. Security teams should implement entropy-change detection and irregular write-pattern monitoring — the same methodology used for ransomware — but calibrated for the extreme speed at which agent-driven incidents now occur inside production environments.
  • Shadow agent proliferation: Non-technical employees building workflows in tools like Lovable connect company data to external agent networks without understanding compliance or data residency implications. IT and security leaders should establish data classification policies that automatically flag sensitive data before it reaches any agent pipeline, regardless of whether the builder is technical or not.
  • Legacy ETL infrastructure replacement: Tools like Fivetran and dbt were purpose-built for single-use, human-directed data pipelines and lack the contextual layer needed for multi-agent environments. Organizations should evaluate replacing or augmenting these with platforms that provide continuous ingestion, semantic classification, and access-controlled exposure to LLM workflows without requiring manual pipeline construction per application.
  • Forward-deployed engineering as AI adoption model: Large legacy enterprises unable to move through standard 12-to-24-month procurement cycles are shortening AI deployment timelines by embedding specialized engineers from AI-native startups directly inside their organizations. Companies seeking faster AI adoption should evaluate forward-deployed or outcome-based engagement models rather than traditional SaaS procurement as a primary adoption path.

Notable Moment

Six months prior to recording, no enterprise leader raised agent-driven data incidents in conversations with the founders. By the time of recording, nearly every executive they met had either experienced an internal agent corrupting or deleting production data or expressed direct fear that it would happen imminently.

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Episode Transcript

Up until now, the concerns came from human threats. What we're seeing now on steroids is that the same type of threat is coming from nonhuman actors, agents that essentially have legitimate access to the environment with legitimate permissions. Fortunately, for us, it's a very similar methodology in terms of detecting that and protecting against that, but the velocity of that happening is extreme. Think of the nontechnical people. They're not even aware for things like security or compliance or who is gonna use this data. Maybe their agent that they are building are using other agents, and they're not technical to even understand what it means. It creates complete set of actors inside the organization, not bound by the rules of the organization and not necessarily running within the premises of the premises of the organization, but handling sensitive data. It's a good thing and bad thing that everyone inside the organization can become builders. We live in very interesting times. Today, I know priors, we're joined by Ofer Ehrlich and Gunen Stein, the co founders of Eon. Eon is a cloud backup disaster recovery centric services designed for the AI era. In this discussion, we talk about data, AI, why Google bought out the data of Spirit Airlines out of bankruptcy, and what it means to really manage and use data infrastructure in the AI era. Afiyo Ghonen, thank you so much for joining me on the prize today. It's great to see you. Absolutely. Thanks for having us. Yeah. So one thing that you guys are doing at Eon is or actually, why don't you give a quick overview of Eon and what it does really quickly? Because I think that'll set the context for how we think about AI and data and models and fine tuning models. I think there's a whole stack that's built on top of different types of datasets. And so maybe we can start with what you all do, and then I think we'll kinda walk through, like, how the world is shifting relative to to the enterprise data stack. Yeah. Sure. So, what we do at at a high level is we've created a a a new data foundation that runs, in the cloud, and we provide multiple capabilities that allow customers to first map and classify their data across their, environment, across multiple hyperscalers and identify, what they have, where they have it, what's sensitive, not sensitive, and so on and so forth. Then we provide an ability to easily ingest that data from all these, different sources, structured, unstructured data into this data foundation. And the data foundation then provides a very cost effective way of both maintaining the data for, protection and recovery, but also makes sense of the data. So it allows customers to very easily access it, query it, search through it, and apply their AI models and LLMs on top of that data that's, ingested variety of sources. Yeah. And my sense is, I mean, …

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  • Non-technical employees building workflows in tools like Lovable connect company data to external agent networks without understanding compliance or data residency implications.
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    Tools like Fivetran and dbt were purpose-built for single-use, human-directed data pipelines and lack the contextual layer needed for multi-agent environments.
  • Tools like Fivetran and dbt were purpose-built for single-use, human-directed data pipelines and lack the contextual layer needed for multi-agent environments.

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