How To Succeed, Sanely—Without Toxic Productivity, Preconceived Notions, or Fear of Change | Anne-Laure Le Cunff

This is the 10% Happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris. Hello, my fellow suffering beings. How we doing today? On this episode, we're talking about how to succeed sanely without getting stuck on a hamster wheel of toxic productivity, without clinging to your preconceived notions about how things are supposed to be, and without being paralyzed by the brute fact of impermanence and uncertainty. My guest is the neuroscientist and entrepreneur, Anne Laura Lecauff, who conducts research into the neuroscience of learning and curiosity at King's College London and is the author of a book called Tiny Experiments, How to Live Freely in a Goal Obsessed World. We talk about her critique of our cultural obsession with finding your purpose, the value of knowing your cognitive scripts, practical tools to live a more curious and fulfilled life, her mini protocol for running experiments based on the scientific method, mindful productivity as opposed to toxic productivity, whether procrastination is actually your enemy, the upside of making space for your imperfections, tips for navigating uncertainty, why you want to avoid having too many experiments going on at the same time, the main difference between a habit and an experiment, how to learn alongside other people and why that matters, collective flow states, tips for meeting and developing relationships with other people so that you can get into those flow states with them. And this question, is your legacy important? Just to say super quickly before we dive in here, we've got new meditations posting all the time over on my new meditation app, 10% with Dan Harris. You can sign up for the app over on danharris.com. There's a free fourteen day trial if you wanna try before you buy. Members also get access to our weekly live meditation and q and a sessions. 10% with Dan Harris available via danharris.com. Okay. We'll get started with Anne Laure LaConff right after this. I was, in a team meeting today with, three of my colleagues, and, it just occurred to me how massively important it is to hire well. Luckily for me, I have done that. Or to be more accurate, my CEO, Tony, has done a great job hiring. I was just marveling at the quality of the people we have during our meeting today. If you're hiring for your company, this is a busy time of year because, you've got new 2,026 goals, which means finding the right people to accomplish them. Unfortunately, you also have new hiring challenges this year, like filling specialized roles or identifying qualified candidates with a huge pool of applicants, thankfully, there's a place you can go that can help you conquer these challenges and achieve your hiring goals, ZipRecruiter. And right now, you can try it for free. Ziprecruiter.com/10percent. Tenpercent, all one word spelled out. ZipRecruiter's matching technology works fast to find top talent so you don't waste time or money. You can find out right away how many job seekers in your area are qualified …