TIP834: DLocal (DLO): Multibagger Potential with Decade-Long Runway w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O’Malley
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82 min
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Relationships, Investing, Fundraising & VC
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Key Takeaways
- ✓Dual megatrend positioning: dLocal captures two simultaneous growth engines — emerging market digitalization and Western tech giants expanding into those markets. Unlike betting on which local company wins in Brazil or Nigeria, dLocal profits regardless of which local player dominates, because its revenue grows when Amazon, Netflix, and Spotify grow their emerging market volumes. This reduces single-company risk while maintaining full exposure to the secular trend.
- ✓Take rate vs. margin distinction: dLocal's take rate fell from 2.9% in 2020 to 0.9% today, but this metric misleads. The relevant framework is the V-shape: TPV grows fastest, gross profit grows slower due to take rate compression, but net profit grows faster than gross profit due to operating leverage. Investors should track EBIT-to-gross-profit ratio, not take rate alone, to assess whether the business is actually compounding value.
- ✓Regulatory moat via licensing: dLocal holds 38 regulatory licenses across 60+ markets with roughly 12-15 more pending. Each license takes years to obtain, creating a durable barrier that Stripe, Adyen, or any new entrant cannot replicate quickly. Adyen has operated in Brazil for over a decade without matching dLocal's penetration, suggesting that regulatory depth and local relationships compound into a structural advantage that capital alone cannot shortcut.
- ✓Smart routing and conversion uplift: dLocal's smart routing system dynamically selects the highest-approval payment path per transaction across multiple local acquirers, varying by card type, time of day, and transaction size. Cross-border payment failure rates reach 15-25% without optimization. dLocal's local processing delivers a 20 percentage point conversion rate improvement versus international card processing, a measurable value-add that justifies merchant pricing and reduces churn risk.
- ✓SmartPix solves subscription billing gap: Brazil's PIX system, like India's UPI, requires customers to manually approve each payment, making automatic subscription billing impossible natively. dLocal's SmartPix product adds a software layer enabling recurring charges without customer re-approval each cycle — replicating stored-card tokenization behavior. This directly protects subscription revenue for Netflix, Spotify, and similar clients, and represents a concrete monetization lever beyond raw payment routing.
What It Covers
Daniel Mahncke pitches dLocal (DLO), a Uruguay-founded B2B payments company serving global tech giants like Amazon, Netflix, and Uber across 60+ emerging markets. Trading at 15x earnings with 50%+ revenue growth, dLocal processes $40B annually in total payment volume, acting as the single API connecting Western merchants to fragmented emerging market payment rails.
Key Questions Answered
- •Dual megatrend positioning: dLocal captures two simultaneous growth engines — emerging market digitalization and Western tech giants expanding into those markets. Unlike betting on which local company wins in Brazil or Nigeria, dLocal profits regardless of which local player dominates, because its revenue grows when Amazon, Netflix, and Spotify grow their emerging market volumes. This reduces single-company risk while maintaining full exposure to the secular trend.
- •Take rate vs. margin distinction: dLocal's take rate fell from 2.9% in 2020 to 0.9% today, but this metric misleads. The relevant framework is the V-shape: TPV grows fastest, gross profit grows slower due to take rate compression, but net profit grows faster than gross profit due to operating leverage. Investors should track EBIT-to-gross-profit ratio, not take rate alone, to assess whether the business is actually compounding value.
- •Regulatory moat via licensing: dLocal holds 38 regulatory licenses across 60+ markets with roughly 12-15 more pending. Each license takes years to obtain, creating a durable barrier that Stripe, Adyen, or any new entrant cannot replicate quickly. Adyen has operated in Brazil for over a decade without matching dLocal's penetration, suggesting that regulatory depth and local relationships compound into a structural advantage that capital alone cannot shortcut.
- •Smart routing and conversion uplift: dLocal's smart routing system dynamically selects the highest-approval payment path per transaction across multiple local acquirers, varying by card type, time of day, and transaction size. Cross-border payment failure rates reach 15-25% without optimization. dLocal's local processing delivers a 20 percentage point conversion rate improvement versus international card processing, a measurable value-add that justifies merchant pricing and reduces churn risk.
- •SmartPix solves subscription billing gap: Brazil's PIX system, like India's UPI, requires customers to manually approve each payment, making automatic subscription billing impossible natively. dLocal's SmartPix product adds a software layer enabling recurring charges without customer re-approval each cycle — replicating stored-card tokenization behavior. This directly protects subscription revenue for Netflix, Spotify, and similar clients, and represents a concrete monetization lever beyond raw payment routing.
- •Valuation model with 22% base-case return: At roughly $4B market cap and 15x earnings, the base case assumes TPV growing ~38% through 2028 decelerating to ~20%, take rate declining to below 0.7%, gross profit compounding at 19-20% annually, and operating leverage expanding EBIT margins. A $300M buyback program plus a 30% free cash flow dividend yield of 3-4% adds ~2.5% annual share count reduction. Bear case risk is margin compression without operating leverage materializing, which could halve the stock.
Notable Moment
When Muddy Waters published a short report in 2022 alleging overstated TPV and mishandled merchant funds, dLocal's stock dropped 50% in a single day. Despite the severity of the claims, not one merchant left the platform — a data point that arguably revealed more about customer stickiness than any retention metric the company could self-report.
Episode Transcript
You're listening to TIP. Welcome back, folks, to the investors podcast, episode 834. And the last stock I pitched to you, Sean, was Pinduoduo, by many measures, the largest ecommerce company in the world, trading at a low single digit earnings multiple with about 60% of the market cap in cash. Robert Leonard (zero fifty three:fifty seven): Fascinating company and opportunity. One of the most surprising things to me was the connection to Buffet and Berkshire. Today's company, I don't think has any surprise connections to Buffet that I'm not aware of. Slightly more expensive, but still relatively cheap, I would say, and also with a lot of cash on the balance sheet, although it's not 60% of the market cap this time. And it's earlier in its life cycle, so we could have a company here that generates exceptional returns for maybe decades to come. That's the idea. Since 2014, with more than 200,000,000 downloads, we have interviewed the world's best investors, studied deeply the principles of value investing, and uncovered many compelling investment opportunities. We focus on understanding businesses and intrinsic value, investing accordingly, and sharing everything we learn with you. This show is not investment advice. It's intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. All opinions expressed by hosts and guests are solely their own, and they may have investments in the securities discussed. Now for your hosts, Sean O'Malley and Daniel Manca. For those who have followed along with The Investors Podcast, you might know that Daniel and Kyle alternate on pitching me their favorite new stock idea each week, so we can find opportunities for our intrinsic value portfolio of stocks that we manage, which I should mention, if you want to check out the portfolio, it's linked in the show notes below and updated weekly. You can also get updates on our portfolio for free by signing up for our intrinsic value newsletter. And you can find that in the show notes too, or just by going to theinvestorspodcast.com. I should mention that more often. I got a lot of questions all the time about where to actually find the portfolio that we always talk about, but there's one more thing that we could say. So maybe you wanna complete our little advertising campaign here in the beginning and bring up our New York City Conference. Jason Brett (zero zero three:thirty seven): It's great that you bring it up. Yeah. We'll be hosting our second and much larger intrinsic value conference in Midtown Manhattan this September on Saturday, the nineteenth. And if you want to join us and network with a great group of investors, you can head to intrinsicvalueconference.com to purchase your tickets before they sell out. And prices are going to increase over time ahead of the event. So, the sooner you purchase, the better the deal you'll get. All right. Well, today, Daniel, it's your turn to make a pitch. And I got to say, when I look at D Locals …
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