TIP790: Wealth Beyond Money w/ Thomas Mueller-Borja
Episode
79 min
Read time
3 min
Topics
Productivity, Health & Wellness, Personal Finance
AI-Generated Summary
Key Takeaways
- ✓Fundraising mechanics: Raising $2 billion requires identifying 200 prospects with a 20% conversion rate to secure 40 investors at €50 million average tickets. The process demands structured pipeline management, global outreach from Australia to South America, and convincing internal distribution teams first before approaching external clients. First-time fund managers face the highest rejection rates requiring sustained optimism over months or years.
- ✓Investment committee design: BlackRock redesigned their IC process using behavioral science principles including anonymous voting through independent risk teams to prevent groupthink and peer pressure. They introduced a designated challenger role who acts as devil's advocate to champion pre-mortems and identify failure paths. This governance structure protects dissenting opinions and reduces cognitive biases in approval decisions for billion-dollar acquisitions.
- ✓Sleep optimization for performance: Using temperature-regulating technology like Sleep Eight increased deep and REM sleep by 25% from three to four hours nightly over two years. Maintaining consistent sleep schedules while traveling across time zones requires staying on home timezone when possible, scheduling meetings at 2-3 AM when necessary, and prioritizing seven hours minimum. Sleep quality directly impacts ability to enter flow states and make sound investment decisions.
- ✓Flow state timing: Peak cognitive performance occurs at specific daily windows, typically 11:15 AM and 4:00-4:30 PM for some individuals. Achieving flow requires meeting prerequisites including adequate sleep, proper nutrition, physical exercise, and meditation practice. Travel disrupts these routines significantly, making it harder to access optimal mental states when meeting new investors or making critical decisions, requiring deliberate scheduling around peak performance windows.
- ✓Sovereign debt positioning: Real estate cap rates correlate with four to ten year sovereign yields, not front-end rates. Countries with lower debt-to-GDP ratios like Sweden at 35% or Germany at 85% offer better opportunities for cap rate compression and capital appreciation. High sovereign indebtedness prevents yield curves from declining when central banks cut rates due to increased term premiums, limiting upside potential in markets like France or UK.
What It Covers
Thomas Borja, global co-head of real estate at BlackRock managing $25 billion, discusses his journey from raising capital with zero assets in 2015 to building a global investment business. He explores the intersection of ethical investing, personal values, leadership principles, and maintaining flow states while managing institutional capital across continents and time zones.
Key Questions Answered
- •Fundraising mechanics: Raising $2 billion requires identifying 200 prospects with a 20% conversion rate to secure 40 investors at €50 million average tickets. The process demands structured pipeline management, global outreach from Australia to South America, and convincing internal distribution teams first before approaching external clients. First-time fund managers face the highest rejection rates requiring sustained optimism over months or years.
- •Investment committee design: BlackRock redesigned their IC process using behavioral science principles including anonymous voting through independent risk teams to prevent groupthink and peer pressure. They introduced a designated challenger role who acts as devil's advocate to champion pre-mortems and identify failure paths. This governance structure protects dissenting opinions and reduces cognitive biases in approval decisions for billion-dollar acquisitions.
- •Sleep optimization for performance: Using temperature-regulating technology like Sleep Eight increased deep and REM sleep by 25% from three to four hours nightly over two years. Maintaining consistent sleep schedules while traveling across time zones requires staying on home timezone when possible, scheduling meetings at 2-3 AM when necessary, and prioritizing seven hours minimum. Sleep quality directly impacts ability to enter flow states and make sound investment decisions.
- •Flow state timing: Peak cognitive performance occurs at specific daily windows, typically 11:15 AM and 4:00-4:30 PM for some individuals. Achieving flow requires meeting prerequisites including adequate sleep, proper nutrition, physical exercise, and meditation practice. Travel disrupts these routines significantly, making it harder to access optimal mental states when meeting new investors or making critical decisions, requiring deliberate scheduling around peak performance windows.
- •Sovereign debt positioning: Real estate cap rates correlate with four to ten year sovereign yields, not front-end rates. Countries with lower debt-to-GDP ratios like Sweden at 35% or Germany at 85% offer better opportunities for cap rate compression and capital appreciation. High sovereign indebtedness prevents yield curves from declining when central banks cut rates due to increased term premiums, limiting upside potential in markets like France or UK.
- •Honesty versus kindness framework: Honesty serves as the foundational principle because maintaining parallel truths creates future conflicts when timelines converge. However, kindness operates as the higher-order value that can override strict honesty when serving greater compassion. Truth itself remains perception-based, with multiple valid versions existing simultaneously depending on individual perspectives and contexts, requiring judgment about which principle takes precedence in specific situations.
Notable Moment
At age 10, Thomas emptied his parents' basement of drinks and snacks during an unexpected traffic jam outside their Swiss home, selling overpriced refreshments to a captive audience. His parents returned to find their supplies gone and Thomas holding a bundle of cash. This early entrepreneurial instinct foreshadowed his later success raising capital from scratch at BlackRock without existing assets.
Episode Transcript
You're listening to TIP. I'm very happy to welcome a friend, Thomas Borgenmiller, as today's guest. The Investing World knows him as the global co head of real estate and global CIO for value add real estate at BlackRock, where he manages $25,000,000,000. To our mastermind community, he's simply Thomas, a fellow member of our tribe and someone we deeply enjoy spending time with, especially when the conversation moves to the intersection of investing life in business. And I think I speak for all of us when I say that conversations with Thomas tend to make all of us a little wiser. For the first time, I was lucky enough to turn on the recorder, invite you to listen in as we explore these ideas together. Since 2014 and through more than 190,000,000 downloads, we break down the principles of value investing and sit down with some of the world's best asset managers. We uncover potential opportunities in the market and explore the intersection between money, happiness, and the art of living a good life. This show is not investment advice. It's intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. All opinions expressed by hosts and guests are solely their own, and they may have investments in the securities discussed. Now for your host, Stig Brodersen. Welcome to the investors podcast. I'm your host Stig Brodersen. And today I'm here with my friend, Thomas. Thomas, how are you today? I'm good. What a privilege to be here. How are you Stig? How are things? Stig Brodersen (zero zero three:forty one): I'm fantastic. Thank you so much for joining us. What I wanted to ask you as we go into the episode here, are you here as Thomas or are you here as global co head of real estate and global chief investment officer for value add real estate at BlackRock? This just rolls right off your tongue. So in which capacity are you here? Yeah. Well, it can't really lose the title. Apologies for that. Well, I think hopefully hopefully, that's both. You know, I think I'd love to be able to share some thoughts that would be valuable from sort of more professional perspective, from an investment perspective, from, managing a business perspective, but hopefully also some things that are, you know, a bit more personal, which which, you know, might not be as obvious to hear from somebody like myself. That's, that's wonderful. Thomas, let me ask you one of those dinner party questions that's absolutely terrible. That is the what do you do type question. And you know, you and I have this ongoing joke because we've known each other for some time now. Like, almost every time we meet up, I'm asking you what you do for a living and I still don't know what you do. So I'm going to put you on the spot here and could you tell us, share with me, but also the audience, what do you do whenever you are, I'm …
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