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Why Your Company Should Own Its AI Model | E2278

76 min episode · 3 min read
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Josh Sirota

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76 min

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3 min

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Productivity, Remote Work, Startups

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Key Takeaways

  • Company World Model: Aragon uses reinforcement learning to embed proprietary company data directly into model weights rather than pulling context into frontier models at runtime. This reduces token usage by roughly 100x and cuts inference costs to one-third the price of Anthropic's Opus at $5 per million tokens versus $15, while delivering responses up to 10x faster for repetitive internal workflows.
  • Continuous Learning Architecture: Aragon runs a Cron job every 15 minutes to ingest Slack, email, and other enterprise data into a ChromaDB vector store using Ollama and Chroma. The longer-term goal is overnight weight updates via reinforcement learning so the model self-improves without costly retraining cycles, eliminating the need to re-read entire data sources on every query.
  • Enterprise AI Deployment Strategy: When deploying AI into large organizations like Corgi's insurance underwriting workflow, start by identifying one repetitive, manual, high-frequency task rather than attempting full-scale integration. Corgi replaced a full-time operations role processing 40 daily insurance quote requests with an Aragon agent that sends a WhatsApp confirmation to a human approver, maintaining human-in-the-loop oversight while cutting cost and time.
  • FAA Part 108 Regulatory Shift: The upcoming Part 108 framework eliminates the requirement for drone operators to maintain visual line of sight, enabling one remote team to supervise multiple autonomous drones simultaneously from any location. This mirrors the transition from Level 2 to Level 4 vehicle autonomy and opens drone logistics to hospitals, local carriers, and rural communities previously excluded by Part 107's strict operator requirements.
  • Drone Logistics Specifications: Iona's tilt-rotor hybrid drone carries up to 20 parcels weighing 44 pounds total, flies 60 to 80 miles at full load on a one-way trip, and can autonomously load, drop, and recharge across multiple depot stops. The tilt-rotor design provides vertical takeoff convenience combined with fixed-wing glide efficiency, making per-unit delivery costs competitive with ground logistics in low-density areas serving under 500 people per square mile.

What It Covers

Jason Calacanis and Lon Harris interview Josh Sirota, CEO of Aragon, on why enterprises should own custom AI models trained on proprietary data rather than relying on frontier models like Claude or GPT-4. They also cover drone logistics startup Iona, FAA Part 108 regulations, Kimi K2.6 launch, and Sergey Brin's internal Google memo on AI adoption.

Key Questions Answered

  • Company World Model: Aragon uses reinforcement learning to embed proprietary company data directly into model weights rather than pulling context into frontier models at runtime. This reduces token usage by roughly 100x and cuts inference costs to one-third the price of Anthropic's Opus at $5 per million tokens versus $15, while delivering responses up to 10x faster for repetitive internal workflows.
  • Continuous Learning Architecture: Aragon runs a Cron job every 15 minutes to ingest Slack, email, and other enterprise data into a ChromaDB vector store using Ollama and Chroma. The longer-term goal is overnight weight updates via reinforcement learning so the model self-improves without costly retraining cycles, eliminating the need to re-read entire data sources on every query.
  • Enterprise AI Deployment Strategy: When deploying AI into large organizations like Corgi's insurance underwriting workflow, start by identifying one repetitive, manual, high-frequency task rather than attempting full-scale integration. Corgi replaced a full-time operations role processing 40 daily insurance quote requests with an Aragon agent that sends a WhatsApp confirmation to a human approver, maintaining human-in-the-loop oversight while cutting cost and time.
  • FAA Part 108 Regulatory Shift: The upcoming Part 108 framework eliminates the requirement for drone operators to maintain visual line of sight, enabling one remote team to supervise multiple autonomous drones simultaneously from any location. This mirrors the transition from Level 2 to Level 4 vehicle autonomy and opens drone logistics to hospitals, local carriers, and rural communities previously excluded by Part 107's strict operator requirements.
  • Drone Logistics Specifications: Iona's tilt-rotor hybrid drone carries up to 20 parcels weighing 44 pounds total, flies 60 to 80 miles at full load on a one-way trip, and can autonomously load, drop, and recharge across multiple depot stops. The tilt-rotor design provides vertical takeoff convenience combined with fixed-wing glide efficiency, making per-unit delivery costs competitive with ground logistics in low-density areas serving under 500 people per square mile.
  • AI Film Production Cost Reduction: The Doug Liman Bitcoin film starring Gal Gadot is being shot entirely on a custom gray-screen London soundstage using AI-generated backgrounds and lighting via a company called Acme AI and FX, targeting a $70 million budget versus a typical $200-300 million comparable production. This model preserves actor performances and writing while eliminating location shoots, set construction, and large production design teams.

Notable Moment

Josh Sirota demonstrated Aragon processing roughly 50 real emails live on air, identifying a meeting request from a prominent venture capitalist as the highest priority action item while simultaneously routing a cleaning service invoice to an autonomous payment agent — all within seconds, using production data from his actual company.

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Episode Transcript

Hey. Can we just have a better CEO than Jason? Can we have a better board of directors than your board of directors because they have all information? You're saying now you're building that, Josh. Yeah. Exactly. What we're calling this is a company world model to make that vision true, an algorithm that can actually have the right reward functions. So we can get up to 20 parcels, in the drone. 40 plus pounds. Holy cow. If you're already doing logistics, you could just add drones to your fleet. This is kind of like going from level two autonomy to level four. Yes. Exactly. It's happening, folks. This Week in Startups is brought to you by Pilot. Focus on your product. Let Pilot handle your bookkeeping. Pilot provides the most reliable accounting, CFO, and tax services for start ups and small businesses. Head to pilot.com/twist and get $1,200 off your first year. Vanta. Compliance and security shouldn't be a deal breaker for startups to win new business. Vanta makes it easy for companies to get a SOC two report fast. Get $1,000 off for a limited time at vanta.com/twist. And Quo. Quo, formerly open phone, gives you a clean, modern way to handle every customer call, text, and thread all in one place. Try it free at quo.com/twist. Hey, everybody. It is 04:20. Lon Harris is here. He is ready to go. Yeah. And, it's twist. And we got a full docket. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I do Monday and Friday. I do some Wednesdays. He's here on Wednesday. And, the This Week in Empire is growing This Week in AI drops on Wednesdays. We also put half the show into the This Week in Startups feed just to tease you a little bit, give you a taste to get your first thirty, forty minutes. And then we remind you, hey. Go over to the This Week in AI, you know, show and, you know, subscribe there. Like a dealer. The first half is free, and that's how we get you. Sure. Yeah. Sure. A four twenty perfect Exactly. Analogy. Exactly. And we got a lot of important things going on. There's a lot of notes you're gonna need to take. This week in startups, our core pillars are, tactical and practical and experts only. Those are the first two pillars. And when you have tactical, practical information and experts only on the show, man, this means you can get a lot out of it as a founder. So I wanna just take a minute for applaud. I'm wearing it on my wrist today. I've been enjoying my wrist. And I just press this little button, Lon. And, oh, the red light's on. Yeah. And now, if I think of something, oh, the next This Week in Show that we're gonna launch, soft launch in a couple of weeks, make sure that, blah blah blah blah blah. Oh, and I'm giving you a way to we blah blah blah blah, …

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    Corgi replaced a full-time operations role processing 40 daily insurance quote requests with an Aragon agent that sends a WhatsApp confirmation to a human approver
  • They also cover drone logistics startup Iona, FAA Part 108 regulations, Kimi K2.6 launch, and Sergey Brin's internal Google memo on AI adoption.
  • Sponsors: Pilot
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    enterprises should own custom AI models trained on proprietary data rather than relying on frontier models like Claude or GPT-4
  • Sponsors: Plaud
  • Aragon runs a Cron job every 15 minutes to ingest Slack, email, and other enterprise data into a ChromaDB vector store using Ollama and Chroma.
  • Aragon runs a Cron job every 15 minutes to ingest Slack, email, and other enterprise data into a ChromaDB vector store using Ollama and Chroma.
  • Sponsors: Vanta

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  • They also cover drone logistics startup Iona, FAA Part 108 regulations, Kimi K2.6 launch
  • The Doug Liman Bitcoin film starring Gal Gadot is being shot entirely on a custom gray-screen London soundstage using AI-generated backgrounds and lighting via a company called Acme AI and FX
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    Jason Calacanis and Lon Harris interview Josh Sirota, CEO of Aragon, on why enterprises should own custom AI models trained on proprietary data rather than relying on frontier models like Claude or GPT-4.
  • When deploying AI into large organizations like Corgi's insurance underwriting workflow, start by identifying one repetitive, manual, high-frequency task

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