Bittensor’s (alleged) $10M rug pull (feat. Mark Jeffrey) | E2275
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Key Takeaways
- ✓Subnet Rug Pull Mechanics: A subnet owner accumulates tokens automatically through chain emissions. If they hold a majority of subnet tokens, they can flood the on-chain liquidity pool — essentially a decentralized exchange — converting those tokens to TAO, then selling on Binance for cash. Sam Dare allegedly executed this with 37,000 TAO worth roughly $10M, causing TAO's price to drop approximately 25% immediately after.
- ✓Proposed Fix — Conviction Locking: Konstantin Steves released a governance proposal where subnet ownership is determined by who locks the most tokens for the longest period. Active subnet operators would have tokens locked while running the subnet, preventing sudden mass dumps. This mechanism rewards capital conviction and makes hostile exits structurally difficult, replacing trust-based systems with smart contract enforcement.
- ✓Proper Subnet Exit Protocol: If a subnet owner has grievances, the correct path is negotiating directly with the foundation — agreeing on a fair token allocation for contributions to date, then transferring the subnet's private key to the foundation for redistribution. This preserves token holder value and continuity of the project rather than unilaterally liquidating positions and abandoning operations.
- ✓Bitmind's Adversarial Detection Model: Bitmind (subnet 34) runs two competing miner classes simultaneously — one optimizing deepfake detection accuracy, one generating synthetic content to fool detectors. This red-team structure forces continuous model retraining on a daily or weekly cadence, keeping detection ahead of new generative models without waiting for centralized dataset updates. Enterprise use cases include media verification, secure hiring, and legal evidence authentication.
- ✓IOTA's Interruptible Distributed Training: Macrocosmos subnet 9 (IOTA) enables frontier model training using compute units as small as a MacBook for as little as 20 minutes. By designing for interruptibility — assuming nodes drop out — they can source GPU compute at roughly 10 cents on the dollar from providers with idle capacity. The train-at-home app requires two clicks to install and pays miners in IOTA tokens for overnight compute contribution.
What It Covers
Stillcore Capital Partner Mark Jeffrey joins This Week in Startups to break down the alleged $10M rug pull on Bittensor's Templar subnet by founder Sam Dare, who dumped 37,000 TAO tokens on subnet holders before departing. The episode also features three subnet founders from Bitmind and Macrocosmos explaining their deepfake detection and distributed AI training projects.
Key Questions Answered
- •Subnet Rug Pull Mechanics: A subnet owner accumulates tokens automatically through chain emissions. If they hold a majority of subnet tokens, they can flood the on-chain liquidity pool — essentially a decentralized exchange — converting those tokens to TAO, then selling on Binance for cash. Sam Dare allegedly executed this with 37,000 TAO worth roughly $10M, causing TAO's price to drop approximately 25% immediately after.
- •Proposed Fix — Conviction Locking: Konstantin Steves released a governance proposal where subnet ownership is determined by who locks the most tokens for the longest period. Active subnet operators would have tokens locked while running the subnet, preventing sudden mass dumps. This mechanism rewards capital conviction and makes hostile exits structurally difficult, replacing trust-based systems with smart contract enforcement.
- •Proper Subnet Exit Protocol: If a subnet owner has grievances, the correct path is negotiating directly with the foundation — agreeing on a fair token allocation for contributions to date, then transferring the subnet's private key to the foundation for redistribution. This preserves token holder value and continuity of the project rather than unilaterally liquidating positions and abandoning operations.
- •Bitmind's Adversarial Detection Model: Bitmind (subnet 34) runs two competing miner classes simultaneously — one optimizing deepfake detection accuracy, one generating synthetic content to fool detectors. This red-team structure forces continuous model retraining on a daily or weekly cadence, keeping detection ahead of new generative models without waiting for centralized dataset updates. Enterprise use cases include media verification, secure hiring, and legal evidence authentication.
- •IOTA's Interruptible Distributed Training: Macrocosmos subnet 9 (IOTA) enables frontier model training using compute units as small as a MacBook for as little as 20 minutes. By designing for interruptibility — assuming nodes drop out — they can source GPU compute at roughly 10 cents on the dollar from providers with idle capacity. The train-at-home app requires two clicks to install and pays miners in IOTA tokens for overnight compute contribution.
- •TAO vs. Subnet Token Investment Strategy: Buying TAO provides mutual-fund-style exposure across all 128+ subnets. Buying individual subnet tokens is equivalent to angel investing in a specific project — higher risk, higher potential return, requires active evaluation. Stillcore Capital currently holds approximately 80% in subnets and 20% in TAO, with plans to rebalance toward 70/30 subnets-to-TAO. Subnet tokens are liquid at any time, unlike traditional startup equity.
Notable Moment
Mark Jeffrey compared Sam Dare's alleged actions to a founder receiving venture capital, then transferring the entire bank balance to a personal account and shutting the company down — noting this exact scenario occurs in venture capital every year or two, and that Bittensor's incentive system created the structural conditions for it to happen at scale.
Episode Transcript
Do I believe that Sam's epistle about why he left because of decentralization is correct? No. I do not. If somebody runs a subnet, they do get a little bit of power, and they can do what's called a rug pull. If you have leadership and you have responsibility, you can mess with it. It. The reason why this all happened, the incentivization alignment engine works spectacularly well, but then it fell out of alignment when there was sudden success. It created this sort of overwhelming temptation. It looks like and this is sort of allegedly. It's what it looks like on chain. It looks like this is what Sam did. And this is all allegedly and a lot of ifs here. But if the trail is true, one might speculate that a large amount of money was at stake, and it would be like somebody raising venture capital and saying, wow, there's millions of dollars in the bank. I should deposit in my personal account and shut the company down. This Week in Startups is brought to you by NetSuite. The business landscape is very chaotic right now. That's why you need NetSuite by Oracle. Get the free business guide demystifying AI at netsuite.com/twist. Deal. Founders scale faster on deal. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone, anywhere, get visas handled fast, and get back to building. Visit deal.com/twist to learn more. And Sentry, your team should be focused on shipping features, not chasing down bugs. New users can get $240 in free credits when they go to century.io/twist and use the code twist. Alright, everybody. Welcome back to Twist. It is Monday, 04/13/2026. A o Seventy seven. July. There was a lot of, hand wringing in the Tau bit tensor community over the last week or so, and there's been a lot of progress made. So to break it all down with us, Lan brought on my friend Mark Jeffrey, known for thirty years, was an early OG in Bitcoin, created one of the first online virtual communities, the Palace back in the nineties when many of you were not born, and is one of the OGs of the Internet online space and also now crypto and TAO distributed computing. Welcome back to This Week in Startups, Mark Jeffrey. Thank you for having me, sir. Great to be back. Mark started telling me, Lon, about BitTensor and TAO because I was like, hey. What's going on? Because I think crypto's turning a corner here. It's becoming legal. It's becoming regulated in a very intelligent way. And I'm curious. Is there anybody doing anything where a consumer or an enterprise gets value other than store of value and money transfer? Very well established uses of crypto, of course, between Bitcoin and, you know, stable coins, great to transfer money around and and great to, you know, speculate and all that stuff. But I I care about the application layer and and actually some value being created. …
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