How These 3 Founders are building on Open Claw | E2248

In this past year, with AI tools, we shipped, built and shipped for consumer iOS apps. And that I think that was only possible obviously with all these tools and it got significantly faster towards the end of the year in 2025. But I think like budgets can be used. So a million dollar round, let's say you've raised at this point, you're building 10 X faster, sometimes even more. You're like on a product level, but now you can afford to run more experiments. And a startup is just a handful of experiments that you're trying to figure out and, like, prove out a thesis. And now you can prove about multiple theses at the same time because of these agentic tools. So your take on it is you can do three or four products at once, which would lead me to believe that the cost went down. If if you think you could do three products at once and test them, the cost will go down by two thirds. You'll need three or four people instead of 10? Definitely. Because you you can start to just automate out rules or yeah. Basically, task. Right, like, what task can you automate out? That number is, I think, just increasing every month. This Week in Startups is brought to you by Eru. Unify your identity, endpoint security, and compliance into a single platform. Book a demo at erew.com. That's iru.com. Deal. Founders ship faster on deal. Set up payroll for any country in minutes and get back to building. Visit deal.com/twist to learn more. And HubSpot. Check out the advanced chat GPT prompt engineering from basic to expert in seven days. Download it free at clickhubspot.com/twisttwo. Okay, everybody. Welcome back to Twist. 02/11/2026. It is a o '17, the seventeenth day after Open Claw, appeared here on This Week in Startups, and we have been claw shotted. With me, Presh Dinesh Kumar, who, worked with me for many years at Launch, and he is the cofounder and CEO of the wellness company, which we incubated at Launch, which is the venture firm that I run, Launch dot c o. He's got five products in market, Go Polar for people who like to jump in cold water, SunSeek for people who like to get sun, and a bunch of other ones. And we'll talk about that, as well. But, Presh, you too, as a founder, have been watching OpenClaw, this new agentic platform that is open source called OpenClaw. It was previously called ClaudeBot, but we're not gonna keep reminding people of that. It's OpenClaw. It's open source. And it basically lets you create personas, replicants, agents, all of those things. We like the term replicants. We're gonna use that here. So when did you first see OpenClaw? What did you think? And then what did you build? Thanks for having me on, Jason. So first time I saw it was maybe two and a half weeks ago, just on Twitter …