Grammarly is now Superhuman! CEO Shishir Mehrotra explains the rebrand | E2201

I wanna bring up something else, Jason, that's a little bit off from where we just were on the energy side of things. Instead, talk about humans. There's been a theme on the show for ever since I got here that companies are either not hiring or reducing their team sizes. And so when we think about taking care of employees, we don't talk about attrition that much. It's just not the thing we're kind of tuning for, I think, as an industry. But, our friends over at thirty seven signals, DHH and Jason Fried, are talking today quite a lot about their use of sabbaticals. This is a six week break for workers in their third year at the company as part of their overall kind of, like, kind setup for their staff, including four day work weeks from, May through September. And this struck me as just out of the blue because we're talking about laying off 14,000 people at Amazon, not trying to keep people. So one, are you in favor of sabbaticals of this type? And two, are they just drinking different Kool Aid than everyone else? So they are a highly profitable software company that has existed for a long time with a loyal base of users. And it is pretty reliable, those revenue streams. People who use Basecamp, they just love it. They're never gonna stop using it. Okay, period. Full stop. So when you start a company, and you don't have a bunch of investors, which they don't, I think they bought out Bezos, who was their only investor back in the day, They can build the world they want to live in. Now, you remember, they had a whole, DEI woke thing happen at their company where people wanted to bring all their opinions to work and debate it on Slack, just like at Coinbase. And we had this sort of pendulum swing the other way. Hey, if you're at Coinbase, you're here to do one thing, you know, provide crypto solutions to the world. If you're at thirty seven signals, they took a similar approach. Hey, if you wanna be here, you're here to make great productivity software, full stop, and that's it. And then here's an incredible pay package. I think both companies just said, hey, if you wanna opt out, we get it. So during that culture war, which we forget about, but I guess that was 2017 to, you know, COVID basically. They went through that. Then whoever's left, what's happening today is companies are getting more efficient. If the company gets more efficient and you own a business, you really appreciate stability. You really appreciate the fact that Alex shows up three days a week and has a suit and tie on. Or I didn't tell you about the ties. He has a press shirt on. Don't make me buy ties. You never know. So you start to appreciate that. Right? And then when you lose a …