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Did OpenAI Steal the Navier-Stokes Solution? | E2335

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Yohi Nakajima,Ben Lear,Rebecca Lynn

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Key Takeaways

  • Research Data Security: Never run proprietary or competitive research through frontier model APIs like ChatGPT or Claude. OpenAI's own timeline confirms it began prompting on the Navier-Stokes problem only after hearing rumors of Buckmaster's work — and AI agents now scrape preprints and partial solutions across the web, meaning even unpublished drafts can accelerate a competitor's discovery before you publish.
  • On-Premise AI Deployment: Regulated industries and IP-sensitive companies should deploy containerized, on-premise models rather than cloud-based frontier APIs. Solutions like Go.ai (formerly Abacus) ship a physical server that runs models locally, enabling HIPAA and finance compliance without sending data externally. Covenant Labs offers an alternative: encrypting open-source LLM inputs so GPU providers never see unscrambled data during inference.
  • AI Adoption Forcing Function: To accelerate team-wide AI adoption, implement a mandatory policy requiring AI as the first attempt at any problem-solving task. Calacanis reports Claude login rates at his firm climbed from 20% to 70% after enforcement, with the top two AI users winning 10 of 12 monthly performance bonuses and delivering three-to-ten times the output of non-users.
  • Hiring Filter via Paid AI Project: Screen candidates by offering a $500 paid project requiring them to build something — a dashboard, agent, or deal memo — using AI tools. Calacanis found roughly 50% of otherwise qualified candidates refused or failed to engage, immediately disqualifying them. The remaining hires showed no hesitation with AI tooling, which he treats as a non-negotiable baseline competency.
  • Frontier Model Competitive Risk: Startups building on top of frontier model APIs face a structural threat: Anthropic launched Claude Code directly competing with Cursor, its largest customer, and Claude Design competing with Figma. Founders should assume frontier labs will enter the application layer as token revenue proves insufficient against hundred-billion-dollar data center buildouts, and should migrate toward open-source or verticalized models.

What It Covers

Five VCs — Jason Calacanis, Yohi Nakajima, Ben Lear, and Rebecca Lynn — debate AI doomerism following an Anthropic researcher's viral quit thread, examine OpenAI's alleged theft of NYU mathematician Tristan Buckmaster's Navier-Stokes research, and assess Meta's Muse agent launch, capital-as-weapon startup strategies, and AI's workforce displacement timeline.

Key Questions Answered

  • Research Data Security: Never run proprietary or competitive research through frontier model APIs like ChatGPT or Claude. OpenAI's own timeline confirms it began prompting on the Navier-Stokes problem only after hearing rumors of Buckmaster's work — and AI agents now scrape preprints and partial solutions across the web, meaning even unpublished drafts can accelerate a competitor's discovery before you publish.
  • On-Premise AI Deployment: Regulated industries and IP-sensitive companies should deploy containerized, on-premise models rather than cloud-based frontier APIs. Solutions like Go.ai (formerly Abacus) ship a physical server that runs models locally, enabling HIPAA and finance compliance without sending data externally. Covenant Labs offers an alternative: encrypting open-source LLM inputs so GPU providers never see unscrambled data during inference.
  • AI Adoption Forcing Function: To accelerate team-wide AI adoption, implement a mandatory policy requiring AI as the first attempt at any problem-solving task. Calacanis reports Claude login rates at his firm climbed from 20% to 70% after enforcement, with the top two AI users winning 10 of 12 monthly performance bonuses and delivering three-to-ten times the output of non-users.
  • Hiring Filter via Paid AI Project: Screen candidates by offering a $500 paid project requiring them to build something — a dashboard, agent, or deal memo — using AI tools. Calacanis found roughly 50% of otherwise qualified candidates refused or failed to engage, immediately disqualifying them. The remaining hires showed no hesitation with AI tooling, which he treats as a non-negotiable baseline competency.
  • Frontier Model Competitive Risk: Startups building on top of frontier model APIs face a structural threat: Anthropic launched Claude Code directly competing with Cursor, its largest customer, and Claude Design competing with Figma. Founders should assume frontier labs will enter the application layer as token revenue proves insufficient against hundred-billion-dollar data center buildouts, and should migrate toward open-source or verticalized models.
  • Capital-as-Weapon Math for Acquirers: For companies valued at $2–4 trillion, acquiring ten startups at $10–30 billion each represents only 1% of market cap per deal. If one acquisition returns $300 billion — as YouTube and Instagram did for Google and Meta — the entire portfolio cost is covered. This math justifies aggressive M&A even with low hit rates, and explains valuations like Cursor at $60 billion and Scale AI at $14–15 billion.

Notable Moment

A VC recounted being told by an early Zipline investor over breakfast that the company was uninvestable — only to watch that same investor lead a major funding round two weeks later. The story illustrates how even insiders with direct portfolio knowledge routinely contradict their own conviction within days.

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Episode Transcript

NYU mathematician Tristan Buckmaster put out a statement saying OpenAI only started prompting its model on this problem after word of his own work reached the company. Not surprised at all. You look at the YouTubes and the Dropboxes es and the like. Right? I mean, it's it's a it's a common trend. Trust these companies with your data at your own peril to some degree. In the scientific community, right, your people are very conscious about what they share with who because they wanna control who builds on top of their work. And if you start doing that work in Chatuchipu and Claude, there is a possibility that it makes the next researcher find that direction faster. Agents are scraping the entire web looking for partial solutions and can build on it. So the importance of, like, locking in your research becomes increasingly stronger. I would not trust them with anything that's important or proprietary. This idea that you're going to give Instinct or Zuckerberg your Gmail, then your Notion, then your docs, then your databases means they're going to steal your IP, train it, and then give it to your competitors. This week in startups is brought to you by Vanta. Compliance and security shouldn't be a deal breaker for startups to win new business. Vanta makes it easy for companies to get a SOC two report fast. Get $1,000 off for a limited time at www.vanta.com/twist and NetSuite. For the first time ever, you can try NetSuite Next for free. If your revenues are at least in the 7 figures, go to netsuite.ai/twist. Built for every industry, ready for every boardroom. Netsuite.ai/twist. Northwest registered agent. Got a new business idea? Northwest registered agent helps you bring it to life. Get a free domain, email, phone number, and more with no purchase required. Learn more at www.northwestregisteredagent.com/twistdomain. Alright, everybody. Welcome back. It's this week in startups. We do our this week in VC roundtable every Wednesday. What do we do on this roundtable? Well, Lon reads the news. I do a bit of moderation there, and we have three great guests who are active investors in startup companies. And we've got quite a lineup today. Lon, introduce our guests, please. Yeah. Well, first up, we've got Yohi Nakajima. He is the general partner at untapped capital, and he also runs agent fund, a twenty twenty five agent list rolling fund for autonomous agent startups. Plus Ben Lear. Oh. He's the cofounder of Lear. That's a major firm. What a guess. See, firm he started in 2021. Finally, we've got Rebecca Lynn. She's the cofounder of Canvas Prime and a five times Ford Midas list, entrant. There you go. There you go. Welcome, everybody. Jason had no idea that I was on. He's just like, oh my god. Who like, wow. Was hamming it up a bit. I mean, come on, little hamming. That showed up. Amazing. I mean, you know, whatever. Listen. We have got a crazy docket. …

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  • by Anthropic

    Anthropic launched Claude Code directly competing with Cursor, its largest customer, and Claude Design competing with Figma.
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    Anthropic launched Claude Code directly competing with Cursor, its largest customer, and Claude Design competing with Figma.
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    Never run proprietary or competitive research through frontier model APIs like ChatGPT or Claude.
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    Never run proprietary or competitive research through frontier model APIs like ChatGPT or Claude.
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    Covenant Labs offers an alternative: encrypting open-source LLM inputs so GPU providers never see unscrambled data during inference.
  • Anthropic launched Claude Code directly competing with Cursor, its largest customer, and Claude Design competing with Figma.

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  • by Go.ai

    Solutions like Go.ai (formerly Abacus) ship a physical server that runs models locally, enabling HIPAA and finance compliance without sending data externally.

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