A-lister antics and Schedule A shenanigans
Episode
82 min
Read time
2 min
Topics
Sales & Revenue, Artificial Intelligence, Product & Tech Trends
AI-Generated Summary
Key Takeaways
- ✓New media circuit structure: Celebrities now split appearances 50-50 between traditional media (late night, daytime TV) and vertical video platforms (TikTok, YouTube podcasts), with traditional outlets adapting content for social scrolling to remain relevant in the attention economy.
- ✓Redemption press tour playbook: Public figures seeking image rehabilitation follow a specific path: podcast confessionals, guys-being-dudes comedy shows, chicken-eating interviews, glossy magazine covers, then daytime TV—each stop allowing controlled vulnerability without addressing core controversies directly.
- ✓Schedule A litigation mechanics: Plaintiffs bundle hundreds of defendants into single lawsuits in Chicago's Northern District, paying one $400 filing fee instead of hundreds, then secure ex parte temporary restraining orders freezing entire seller accounts before defendants know they're sued.
- ✓Asset freeze exploitation: Judges freeze complete Amazon or eBay seller accounts—sometimes $50,000 or more—based on single $5 product sales, with plaintiffs later seeking statutory damages of $100,000-$900,000 despite minimal actual harm, creating massive settlement pressure.
- ✓Translation technology limitations: Current AI translators handle tourist-level transactions but fail at conversational nuance, slang, and cultural references. Real fluency requires immersion and human explanation of context—technology works as supplement, not replacement, for genuine cross-cultural communication.
What It Covers
The Vergecast examines how celebrities navigate fragmented media through new platforms like Chicken Shop Date and Hot Ones, plus Schedule A lawsuits that allow brands to sue hundreds of alleged infringers simultaneously in Chicago courts.
Key Questions Answered
- •New media circuit structure: Celebrities now split appearances 50-50 between traditional media (late night, daytime TV) and vertical video platforms (TikTok, YouTube podcasts), with traditional outlets adapting content for social scrolling to remain relevant in the attention economy.
- •Redemption press tour playbook: Public figures seeking image rehabilitation follow a specific path: podcast confessionals, guys-being-dudes comedy shows, chicken-eating interviews, glossy magazine covers, then daytime TV—each stop allowing controlled vulnerability without addressing core controversies directly.
- •Schedule A litigation mechanics: Plaintiffs bundle hundreds of defendants into single lawsuits in Chicago's Northern District, paying one $400 filing fee instead of hundreds, then secure ex parte temporary restraining orders freezing entire seller accounts before defendants know they're sued.
- •Asset freeze exploitation: Judges freeze complete Amazon or eBay seller accounts—sometimes $50,000 or more—based on single $5 product sales, with plaintiffs later seeking statutory damages of $100,000-$900,000 despite minimal actual harm, creating massive settlement pressure.
- •Translation technology limitations: Current AI translators handle tourist-level transactions but fail at conversational nuance, slang, and cultural references. Real fluency requires immersion and human explanation of context—technology works as supplement, not replacement, for genuine cross-cultural communication.
Notable Moment
A judge in Chicago's Northern District took the unprecedented step of freezing all his Schedule A cases in March 2024, stating he needed to reconsider the entire litigation model after growing concerned about how plaintiffs were exploiting judicial discretion.
Episode Transcript
Welcome to the Vergecast, the flagship podcast of talking about other people eating chicken on other podcasts, but we don't eat chicken on this podcast. I'm Mia Sato, and I'm going to be taking over the Tuesday show while David is on parental leave for a few weeks. On today's show, we're talking about summer blockbuster seasons. There's movie after movie coming out, and celebrities want to get their project in front of you, or maybe they just wanna put themselves in front of you. We're gonna be talking to Fran Hoppner, a news writer at Vulture, and a friend of mine who wrote a really excellent piece back in June about the crazy hoops that celebrities now have to jump through in order to get attention in an age of fragmented media consumption and at a time when linear television is on the decline. After that, we're going to talk about the flood of cheap knockoff and copycat products that you have no doubt seen online before. In an age of cheap copycat products, brands have found a way to go after dozens or even hundreds of storefronts that they say are infringing on their IP rights. But what happens when someone is wrongly accused of IP infringement? There's a new crop of lawsuits called Schedule a that's something of a legal trend right now. We're talking with law professor Sarah Fackrell about what these lawsuits do and how they could hurt competition online. Later on, we'll have my colleague, Vee Song, on to help me answer a question about AI translators. But first, I have to go unbox 20 Labooboo blind boxes. This is a Vergecast. We'll be right back. Support for this show comes from Figma, where teams turn ideas into the world's best digital products. Now, there's a faster way to make those ideas real, Figma Make. It's an AI powered prompt to code tool that turns your ideas or your Figma designs into interactive code backed prototypes in minutes. Whether you're a designer, product thinker, or founder, Figma Make helps you go from concept to something real, fast. And it all looks and feels just like your brand. Figma Make, a Prompt2Go tool for making ideas real. Try it now at figma.com/vergecast. That's figma.com/vergecast. Support for this show comes from MongoDB. You're a developer who wants to innovate. Instead, you're stuck fixing bottlenecks and fighting legacy code. MongoDB can help. It's a flexible, unified platform that's built for developers by developers. MongoDB is ACID compliant, enterprise ready, with the capabilities you need to ship AI apps fast. That's why so many of the Fortune 500 trust MongoDB with their most critical workloads. Ready to think outside rows and columns? Start building at mongodb.com/build. Support for this show comes from MongoDB. You're a developer who wants to innovate. Instead, you're stuck fixing bottlenecks and fighting legacy code. MongoDB can help. It's a flexible, unified platform that's built for developers by developers. MongoDB is ACID compliant, enterprise …
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“Celebrities now split appearances 50-50 between traditional media (late night, daytime TV) and vertical video platforms (TikTok, YouTube podcasts)”
“Judges freeze complete Amazon or eBay seller accounts—sometimes $50,000 or more—based on single $5 product sales”
“Celebrities now split appearances 50-50 between traditional media (late night, daytime TV) and vertical video platforms (TikTok, YouTube podcasts)”
“Judges freeze complete Amazon or eBay seller accounts—sometimes $50,000 or more—based on single $5 product sales”
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