Relational Foundation Models for Enterprise Data with Jure Leskovec - #768
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Key Takeaways
- ✓Multi-table vs. Single-table ML: The real performance gap in enterprise ML is not between XGBoost and deep learning on a single table — it's the information lost when collapsing relational databases into flat tables. Aggregating transactions into summary statistics (mean, median, count) discards signal that graph neural networks recover by attending directly over raw multi-table data, producing double-digit accuracy improvements on tasks like fraud detection and churn prediction.
- ✓Relational Foundation Model (Zero-Shot Prediction): Kumo's RFM-2 performs accurate predictions on unseen databases and tasks without any model training. It uses in-context learning: the system extracts labeled subgraphs from historical data, passes them alongside an unlabeled target entity through a frozen transformer in a single forward pass, and returns a prediction in under half a second — no backpropagation, no hyperparameter tuning, no feature engineering required.
- ✓Benchmark Performance Numbers: On RealBench and SAP's SALT multi-table benchmarks, Kumo's foundation model outperforms the best supervised models by approximately 5% relative accuracy with zero training. Fine-tuning on task-specific data pushes that gain to roughly 12% over state-of-the-art supervised baselines — gains that translate to tens of millions of dollars in revenue impact in production recommender and fraud systems.
- ✓Production Deployments at Scale: Reddit's advertising models built with Kumo achieved near double-digit increases in click-through rates — gains that typically take entire ML teams a full year to achieve incrementally. DoorDash uses Kumo for restaurant recommendations and notification timing. Coinbase runs fraud detection across the entire Bitcoin blockchain network, demonstrating the system scales to blockchain-sized transaction graphs.
- ✓Explainability via Differentiable Attention + LLM: Because the relational model is fully differentiable, running it backward reveals which specific tables, columns, and cells received attention during prediction. An LLM then converts this saliency map into human-readable text explanations. This approach produces more granular explanations than tree-based models, which only rank engineered features — features that may themselves encode incomplete or biased assumptions about the data.
What It Covers
Jure Leskovec, Stanford professor and Kumo AI cofounder, presents relational deep learning as a fundamental shift in enterprise ML — moving from single-table feature engineering to multi-table graph-based neural networks, culminating in a foundation model that makes accurate predictions on any database without model training.
Key Questions Answered
- •Multi-table vs. Single-table ML: The real performance gap in enterprise ML is not between XGBoost and deep learning on a single table — it's the information lost when collapsing relational databases into flat tables. Aggregating transactions into summary statistics (mean, median, count) discards signal that graph neural networks recover by attending directly over raw multi-table data, producing double-digit accuracy improvements on tasks like fraud detection and churn prediction.
- •Relational Foundation Model (Zero-Shot Prediction): Kumo's RFM-2 performs accurate predictions on unseen databases and tasks without any model training. It uses in-context learning: the system extracts labeled subgraphs from historical data, passes them alongside an unlabeled target entity through a frozen transformer in a single forward pass, and returns a prediction in under half a second — no backpropagation, no hyperparameter tuning, no feature engineering required.
- •Benchmark Performance Numbers: On RealBench and SAP's SALT multi-table benchmarks, Kumo's foundation model outperforms the best supervised models by approximately 5% relative accuracy with zero training. Fine-tuning on task-specific data pushes that gain to roughly 12% over state-of-the-art supervised baselines — gains that translate to tens of millions of dollars in revenue impact in production recommender and fraud systems.
- •Production Deployments at Scale: Reddit's advertising models built with Kumo achieved near double-digit increases in click-through rates — gains that typically take entire ML teams a full year to achieve incrementally. DoorDash uses Kumo for restaurant recommendations and notification timing. Coinbase runs fraud detection across the entire Bitcoin blockchain network, demonstrating the system scales to blockchain-sized transaction graphs.
- •Explainability via Differentiable Attention + LLM: Because the relational model is fully differentiable, running it backward reveals which specific tables, columns, and cells received attention during prediction. An LLM then converts this saliency map into human-readable text explanations. This approach produces more granular explanations than tree-based models, which only rank engineered features — features that may themselves encode incomplete or biased assumptions about the data.
- •Agent-Friendly API Design: When coding agents attempt to build ML pipelines from scratch using PyTorch, they produce thousands of lines of code with subtle data science errors — such as information leakage from incorrect time boundaries. Wrapping Kumo's capabilities into a high-level API reduces the same task to roughly 50 lines of error-free code. Shorter code chains mean fewer agent reasoning steps and dramatically lower failure rates in autonomous ML workflows.
Notable Moment
When pressed on whether the zero-shot foundation model claim was plausible, Leskovec acknowledged it sounds outlandish — then revealed that on completely held-out databases with tasks the model had never encountered, it still outperformed supervised models built by data scientists over several weeks of dedicated feature engineering and tuning.
Episode Transcript
The recent breakthrough, that we had and we just released, in the second version, is our what we call a relational foundation model. And that's a pre trained foundation model, that can reason over structured relational data. And it's crazy what this model can do. It can make accurate predictions on any database and any predictive task without any model training. Alright, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the TwiML AI podcast. I am your host, Sam Charrington. Today, I'm joined by Yure Leskovets. Yure is cofounder and chief scientist at Qumo and a professor at Stanford University. Before we get going, be sure to hit that subscribe button wherever you're listening to today's show. Yuri, welcome to the podcast. It's great to finally connect with you. Yeah. Great to be here. I'm looking forward to our chat. We're going to be digging into your work on relational learning, as well as some of the other interesting things you're up to at Stanford and and around AI for science and more. But let's start there. Tell us a little bit about your research focus. Yeah. Great. So, I'm professor at Stanford here in the computer science department. You know, where the future happens, I like to say. So there's always exciting research, going on. Our, focus recently has been, I would say, on two areas. First is, AI for science, and in particular in we have a project that we call AI virtual cell where we are basically building next generation foundation models that allow us to represent human cells, patients, as well as individual molecules in cells and allow us to re to reason, across this complex biomedical data for, you know, discovering new new cancer therapies, molecule design, reason reasoning about, you know, all different biomedical data modalities, objects, and how they interact with each other to help, to help speed up science. So it's everything from foundation models at the lower level of understanding proteins to then models aggregate the, let's say, the molecules in the cell to represent a single cell. And then the next level models that now say, oh, you know, a tissue or a patient is a collection of cells. Cells are collection of molecules. Let's build models that just aggregate all this knowledge in a very faithful representation, let's say, of a of a patient. And that helps, a lot because now the representations we have are much more, robust, driven purely from the data. No biology in some sense is inserted in the model. Everything is emergent out of the data. And it's amazing how much we can we can learn from that. So that, I would say, is one line of one line of work we've been working on. And and I I can't help but hit pause and ask, like, do you train this all end to end? Or are you training an individual model or or representation at a time and then aggregating it after you've got these …
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