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Ep208: Gary Nabel on Developing a Vaccine for Epstein-Barr Virus

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Gary Nabel

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Key Takeaways

  • Dual-target vaccine design: GSK's earlier EBV vaccine using only GP350 achieved 80-90% reduction in infectious mono but failed to sterilize infection because it blocked only B-cell entry. MODEX's candidate adds the GH/GL/GP42 trimer to block epithelial-cell entry simultaneously. Vaccinated animals in humanized mouse challenge studies showed sterilizing immunity, the strongest preclinical benchmark available before human trials.
  • EBV disease burden: EBV causes approximately 200,000 cancer cases annually, spanning Burkitt lymphoma, Hodgkin's disease, gastric carcinoma, and nasopharyngeal carcinoma. Beyond cancer, mounting epidemiologic evidence links latent EBV reactivation to multiple sclerosis, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis. This positions a preventive EBV vaccine as a potential intervention against a broad cluster of chronic diseases, not merely adolescent mononucleosis.
  • Multispecific antibody rationale: Single-target antibodies allow viruses to mutate and escape. Engineering tetravalent antibodies that bind two tumor-cell antigens and two T-cell activation receptors simultaneously prevents escape while delivering a sustained T-cell killing signal directly at the tumor site. This same logic applies to MODEX's SARS antiviral candidate, which targets two viral components to suppress resistance emergence.
  • Rational vaccine design framework: When conventional killed or live-attenuated approaches fail, as with HIV and EBV, the productive path requires mapping viral glycoprotein structures at atomic resolution, identifying rare broadly neutralizing antibodies via single-cell B-cell cloning, and engineering immunogens that present only the receptor-binding domain rather than the full protein, focusing immune responses on the most vulnerable viral epitopes.
  • Phase 1 to approval pathway for EBV vaccine: With nearly 200 participants enrolled, the Phase 1 trial tests two adjuvant formulations and targets antibody titers exceeding those from natural infection. Phase 2 efficacy will measure reduction in infectious mono incidence via controlled placebo trial. Surrogate immune and genetic markers for MS and autoimmune risk allow researchers to assess broader protective effects without waiting decades for cancer or neurological endpoints.

What It Covers

Gary Nabel, CEO of MODEX Therapeutics, describes how decades of virology research at NIH and Sanofi led to a bivalent Epstein-Barr virus vaccine now in Phase 1 trials with Merck partner. The candidate targets two distinct cell-entry pathways to block both B-cell and epithelial-cell infection, potentially preventing mononucleosis, EBV-associated cancers, and autoimmune diseases including multiple sclerosis.

Key Questions Answered

  • Dual-target vaccine design: GSK's earlier EBV vaccine using only GP350 achieved 80-90% reduction in infectious mono but failed to sterilize infection because it blocked only B-cell entry. MODEX's candidate adds the GH/GL/GP42 trimer to block epithelial-cell entry simultaneously. Vaccinated animals in humanized mouse challenge studies showed sterilizing immunity, the strongest preclinical benchmark available before human trials.
  • EBV disease burden: EBV causes approximately 200,000 cancer cases annually, spanning Burkitt lymphoma, Hodgkin's disease, gastric carcinoma, and nasopharyngeal carcinoma. Beyond cancer, mounting epidemiologic evidence links latent EBV reactivation to multiple sclerosis, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis. This positions a preventive EBV vaccine as a potential intervention against a broad cluster of chronic diseases, not merely adolescent mononucleosis.
  • Multispecific antibody rationale: Single-target antibodies allow viruses to mutate and escape. Engineering tetravalent antibodies that bind two tumor-cell antigens and two T-cell activation receptors simultaneously prevents escape while delivering a sustained T-cell killing signal directly at the tumor site. This same logic applies to MODEX's SARS antiviral candidate, which targets two viral components to suppress resistance emergence.
  • Rational vaccine design framework: When conventional killed or live-attenuated approaches fail, as with HIV and EBV, the productive path requires mapping viral glycoprotein structures at atomic resolution, identifying rare broadly neutralizing antibodies via single-cell B-cell cloning, and engineering immunogens that present only the receptor-binding domain rather than the full protein, focusing immune responses on the most vulnerable viral epitopes.
  • Phase 1 to approval pathway for EBV vaccine: With nearly 200 participants enrolled, the Phase 1 trial tests two adjuvant formulations and targets antibody titers exceeding those from natural infection. Phase 2 efficacy will measure reduction in infectious mono incidence via controlled placebo trial. Surrogate immune and genetic markers for MS and autoimmune risk allow researchers to assess broader protective effects without waiting decades for cancer or neurological endpoints.
  • Biotech spinout strategy from large pharma: Large pharmaceutical companies provide manufacturing scale but structurally deprioritize early-stage, higher-risk innovation. Nabel and Elias Zerhouni licensed the EBV vaccine and multispecific antibody platform out of Sanofi to form MODEX in 2020, then partnered with Merck through Phase 1, transferring primary clinical development responsibility to Merck while retaining collaborative scientific input. This structure lets each party contribute distinct capabilities neither could replicate alone.

Notable Moment

Nabel recounts that a 2012 scientific meeting at the NIH Vaccine Research Center was the turning point for EBV vaccine development. Reviewing the GSK trial data, researchers identified that the overlooked epithelial-cell entry pathway explained residual viral shedding in vaccinated subjects, reframing the entire design challenge and motivating the bivalent approach now in trials.

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Episode Transcript

Welcome to the long run. This is a podcast for biotech adventurers. I'm your host, Luke Timmerman. Today's guest is Gary Nabal. Gary is the CEO of Weston, Massachusetts based MODEX Therapeutics. The company has a platform for making multispecific biologics into vaccines and cancer therapies. MODEX was founded in 2020, building on work that began at Sanofi when Nabil was the chief scientific officer at that large pharmaceutical company. The initial application of this multispecific biologic technology, currently in clinical trials, is for a vaccine against Epstein Barr virus. This virus is known to cause infectious mononucleosis, a disease that comes with painful flu like symptoms that can last weeks or months. But what has become even clearer in recent years is that EBV, which lays dormant in most adults, can be reactivated later in life and cause a lot of other problems. EBV is implicated as a culprit in several types of cancer, muscle sclerosis, and other autoimmune diseases. There is no vaccine against the virus, and the MODEX candidate still has a long way to go. But if MODEX and its partner, Merck, are successful, they could theoretically prevent a lot of debilitating chronic diseases. MODEX has designed other multispecific biologics specifically to spur an immune response against certain types of cancer or to treat or prevent COVID nineteen. There's a fascinating story here about how deeper understanding of the biology of EBV infections and the expanding capabilities in the antibody engineering toolkit have led us to this point of possibility. Gary's career, starting as a virologist then taking senior scientific positions at the NIH and Sanofi, has ended up leading him down this very interesting startup path. Now before we get started, a word from the sponsor of the show, AlphaSense. So far, 26 has been a year of transition for health care and life sciences. Over the first half of this year, the AlphaSense health care research team analyzed the individual stories moving the needle across the life sciences ecosystem as part of the sector spotlight series. The eight spotlights can be downloaded at timbermanreport.com. They feature the high stakes battles for new drug markets, like oral GLP ones and targeted radioligand therapies, a resurgent biotech IPO market, and more. Follow the sector's key debates during the second half of twenty twenty six and beyond with the latest sector spotlights directly on AlphaSense. And quick question. When was the last time a CRO told you what something costs before you sign an NDA, sat through two scoping calls, and waited a week for a scope of work. In bioanalysis, pricing gets treated like a closely guarded secret. Dashbio thinks that's backward. It publishes pricing publicly, on its website, and even has a calculator that shows how the price changes if you redesign your study. You can see what your study costs before you talk to a human being. No surprise line items, no it depends, no games. Dash was built to be the bioanalysis company …

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