#253 – Mother’s Day, Unscrupulous Cofounders, and Why You Should Never Retire

What's up, everybody? This is Cortland from ndhackers.com, and you're listening to the Indie Hackers podcast. More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a lot of money in the process. And on this show, I sit down with these indie hackers to discuss the ideas, the opportunities, and the strategies they're taking advantage of so the rest of us can do the same. Today, we have a very special guest on the podcast, the one and only Eva Allen. Hi, mom. Happy Mother's Day. Hey. Thank you. Happy Mother's Day. Thank you. Welcome to the podcast. I am so excited to be here. I am shocked. Is this, like, my Mother's Day gift? This is your Mother's Day gift. Okay. So am I gonna get another gift, or is this it? What do you mean is this it? This is it. This is the most specialist gift any mother could ask for. Yeah. I think this is Well, I'm humble. I can't The world's best Mother's Day gift in history. Thank you so much. I can't believe you guys think that much of me. I'm kind of impressed and shocked. Let me ask this question. Like, no notice? No, okay, mom. We're gonna have you on the podcast and we're gonna ask you three questions and prepare because, I mean, if you really know me, you know this is not me. I don't like, you know But without notice, it's now a surprise. Exactly. If it wasn't a surprise, there would be a worse gift. How are we gonna surprise you with a mother's day gift if we don't surprise you with a gift? Yeah. But, typically, mother's day gifts are what mothers want, but, I mean, this is great. I'm not I'm not complaining. I'm just a little bit shocked by it all, but thank you. I don't I don't like I don't like typical gift giving. I don't know if you guys have ever done, like, the love languages, and it's, like, physical touch, quality time, blah blah blah. But one of them is gift giving, and that's, like, I always score the lowest whenever I take any of those quizzes because I don't like giving gifts. And I especially don't like giving gifts when I feel, like, expected to. So any sort of holiday, whether it's Christmas or Father's Day or Mother's Day or birthdays when it's like, this is the day that you get somebody a gift is, like, the worst day for me to give a gift. And every other day Does that mean that when you are not expected to give a gift, that you do give gifts? No. I also because if not, then I also still just don't like giving gifts. But I like the I like the sort of intangible. It's the thought that count I like experiential things. Things. Like, I like going on trips together, doing a podcast with you, mom, I think is a …