#251 – The Best Ways to Make Money in Tech with Julian Shapiro of Julian.capital

What's up, everybody? This is Cortland from ndhackers.com, and you're listening to the nd hackers podcast. More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a lot of money in the process. And on this show, I sit down with these n d hackers to discuss the ideas, the opportunities, and the strategies they're taking advantage of so the rest of us can do the same. Alright. I'm here with my friend, Julian Shapiro. How's it going, Julian? Great, man. For those who don't know, Julian's been on the show a couple times, maybe three times now or four. You're my, I guess, podcast cohost for our other show brains. You're an investor at julian.capital. You're a writer at julian.com. You are a tweet master with an unimaginable number of followers. How many followers do you have to now? Man, it's make it makes me feel cringe to give you the answer because I look like I'm boasting about it, but, I think a quarter million. Quarter of a million followers. And, like, this time, two years ago, you're, like, 10 times less than that, I think. Yeah. It's it's it's I think I was one of the first people to realizing the power of threads for fast follower growth. Yeah. And now everyone's doing it. So I think each one of us, unless you really wanna lean hard into the clickbait game, which I find a bit cringe and it's not something I wanna do, But unless you lean hard into that, the rate of growth for Twitter followers now, I think, is declining because everyone's doing these threads. Everyone's doing it. I'm almost never on Twitter. I actually sent out my first tweets in a while, like, a couple days ago. But when I do go on Twitter, half of what I see is people saying, I fucking hate Twitter. No. It's like it's like, I made $4,000,000 doing x, and I lost a 100,000,000 doing y. Here are my 10 biggest lessons. You know? But my question for you is if you're not addicted to checking Twitter Yeah. I'm sure you're addicted to checking something. I'm guessing it's Reddit? No. I'm honestly I check Hacker News probably every day, but it's not like I I spend very little time on it. I go. I browse the stories. I leave. I'm just living life, man. I've been, like, living my offline life much harder than I have, probably in the last fifteen years. You know? I was in Italy for a couple weeks recently. I had a big party for my birthday. I got an Airbnb, invited a bunch of friends before that. Just stuff like that. And so I mostly, if I'm at my computer, I'm working. And if I'm not working, I'm doing other stuff. So what gives you the greatest happiness these days? People. Easily. People. Meeting new people, introducing them to each other, hanging out with them. Indie Hackers is super fun …