#249 – The Keys to Making $1M/Year as a Solo Founder with Brett Williams of DesignJoy

What's up, everybody? This is Cortland from ndhackers.com, and you're listening to the n d hackers podcast. More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a lot of money in the process. And on this show, I sit down with these indie hackers to discuss the ideas, the opportunities, and the strategies they're taking advantage of so the rest of us can do the same. Alright. I'm here with Brett Williams. Brett, how's it going? Great, man. How are you? Doing excellent. It's nice to meet you. I've been seeing your name pop up constantly on anti hackers, on Twitter for, like, the last couple years, and it's crazy. You have this crazy business. You're making over $1,000,000 a year as a one person design agency. Yeah. It's pretty, it it's it's pretty, pretty crazy. It's been a crazy ride for I've been going at it. Yeah. I've been at any actors around for, gosh, many many years, but going at this for for five. So it's I've been around the block a couple of times with this thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's like the most inspirational possible story because, like, who doesn't wanna make a million dollars by themselves? Right? Every indie hacker is like, if I could just, like, not hire a whole team, not manage a bunch of people, if I could work like, looks like looks like you're in your apartment. I assume you just work from home and make a ton of money doing what I love. Like, that's the dream. And you've you've, like, hit that dream, and you've been there for some time. Like, it wasn't wasn't just like yesterday. You've been posting about this for years. I was reading some of your old comments on indie hackers when you had just kinda started Designjoy, things are going okay, and one of them you talked about this fear that it wouldn't scale. You're thinking, you know, I'm doing this on the side. I've got a full time job or, you know, a different job. I'm working on these design projects for people. You know, I'm already at the point where I've got six or seven customers. I'm not sure if I could possibly scale this business. So maybe I think you said maybe I'm forever doomed to be a lifestyle business. And here you are. You clearly push past that point. Yeah. I mean, it's it's partly, you know, my own self doubt, but also, you know, I've had a lot of people over the years that I've just spoken to that that also kind of put that doubt in in as well. You know, when I explain the model and explain the fact that I'm doing myself, I mean, you have people on one hand that say, you know, getting clients will never be your bottleneck. It'll be scaling this thing. And then you have other, you know, the other side is, like, you're gonna burn yourself out. …