#241 – Money, Happiness, and Productivity as a Solo Founder with Pieter Levels (Part 1 of 2)

What's up, everybody? This is Cortland from ndhackers.com, and you're listening to the nd hackers podcast. More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a lot of money in the process. And on this show, I sit down with these n d hackers to discuss the ideas, the opportunities, and the strategies they're taking advantage of so the rest of us can do the same. I'm here with, Peter Levels. He's a man who needs very little introduction, but I'll do one anyway. You're the founder of Nomad List, sort of the hub for digital nomads. You're the founder of Remote Okay, the biggest remote job board in the world. And, you're, you know, probably the primary inspiration for ND hackers itself. And I think it's been, like, four years now. Yeah. It's been four years since you've been on the show, so this is your second time. How's it going? I'm great, man. So nice to see you again. It feels like a century. It feels like we spoke last, like, a 100 years ago. It's great to see you, man. I heard you've been you've been living an an offline life, recently, so that's really nice to hear. I've been super chill. I've been much less of a workaholic than I've ever been in my entire life, and it's honestly, it's, like, disorienting. Because I'm, like, what do I do with myself? Like, what do I do? And, like, it's hard to, like, find hobbies and stuff because, like, they sometimes don't feel, like, as meaningful as, like, doing, like, a crazy all in startup or being super passionate. I'm, like, I guess I'm gonna collect a lot of plants and, like, water them, but I'm, like, this is what I'm doing this. So maybe I'll get back into it soon. Oh, so nice. Yeah. I know exactly the feeling you're talking about. Yeah. I've been trying to slow down as well, repeatedly over the last few years, but I don't know, man. It goes in cycles. Right? Like, you, Yeah. You go in these work times, and then you you feel, like, burned out. You're like, oh my god. I work too much. And then you wanna relax, but then you get bored because you've done real life, and real life also gets boring after a while. So it's like this endless dance. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You just switch from one to the other. Although you're like I don't view you as, like, a cyclic person because it's like what we were talking about last week, you're like, oh, I've I've realized that I've shipped for a thousand days straight on Yeah. Work in progress community. So it's, like, literally not a single day in the last thousand days have you missed. Yeah. And that's, like, that's real consistency. You know? Yeah. I feel like I've had that for, like, maybe thirty four years. I read that from probably, like, age eight to age …