Skip to main content
The Bulwark Podcast

Anne Applebaum and Jacob Frey: Using Lies to Justify Violence

69 min episode · 2 min read
·

Episode

69 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Design & UX, Science & Discovery, Economics & Policy

AI-Generated Summary

Key Takeaways

  • Federal Immigration Enforcement Overreach: ICE deployed 270+ agents to Minneapolis without clear objectives, outnumbering local police while conducting operations that resulted in 50% of the city's two shootings this year. The agents operate with masked faces, unmarked vehicles, and minimal training standards compared to local law enforcement.
  • Investigation Legitimacy Concerns: Federal officials blocked Minnesota's Bureau of Criminal Apprehension from accessing evidence and materials in the Renee Goode shooting investigation, despite BCA's established expertise investigating officer-involved shootings. Vice President Vance claimed absolute immunity for the agent, though qualified immunity requires lawful conduct during official duties.
  • Community Safety Impact: Minneapolis residents, including US citizens, report fear of attending work or allowing children to walk to school due to ICE presence. Local police face exhaustion responding to calls about perceived kidnappings and excessive force while trying to maintain community trust built since George Floyd's murder.
  • Geopolitical Sphere Strategy Risks: Trump administration's proposed division of world influence into US, Russian, and Chinese spheres ignores European agency and misunderstands power dynamics. Russia remains economically weak as China's client state, while the approach abandons seventy years of alliance-building and international institutions designed to prevent conflict through cooperation.
  • Ukraine War Sustainability Crisis: Russia loses approximately 1,000 soldiers daily, totaling losses equivalent to the entire Vietnam War every two months. Putin has never publicly stated desire to end the war, undermining negotiation efforts, while hypersonic nuclear-capable missile strikes signal escalation threats despite lacking genuine military justification.

What It Covers

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey and Anne Applebaum discuss the ICE shooting of citizen Renee Goode, federal overreach in immigration enforcement, autocratic trends domestically and internationally, and geopolitical shifts in Venezuela, Ukraine, and Iran.

Key Questions Answered

  • Federal Immigration Enforcement Overreach: ICE deployed 270+ agents to Minneapolis without clear objectives, outnumbering local police while conducting operations that resulted in 50% of the city's two shootings this year. The agents operate with masked faces, unmarked vehicles, and minimal training standards compared to local law enforcement.
  • Investigation Legitimacy Concerns: Federal officials blocked Minnesota's Bureau of Criminal Apprehension from accessing evidence and materials in the Renee Goode shooting investigation, despite BCA's established expertise investigating officer-involved shootings. Vice President Vance claimed absolute immunity for the agent, though qualified immunity requires lawful conduct during official duties.
  • Community Safety Impact: Minneapolis residents, including US citizens, report fear of attending work or allowing children to walk to school due to ICE presence. Local police face exhaustion responding to calls about perceived kidnappings and excessive force while trying to maintain community trust built since George Floyd's murder.
  • Geopolitical Sphere Strategy Risks: Trump administration's proposed division of world influence into US, Russian, and Chinese spheres ignores European agency and misunderstands power dynamics. Russia remains economically weak as China's client state, while the approach abandons seventy years of alliance-building and international institutions designed to prevent conflict through cooperation.
  • Ukraine War Sustainability Crisis: Russia loses approximately 1,000 soldiers daily, totaling losses equivalent to the entire Vietnam War every two months. Putin has never publicly stated desire to end the war, undermining negotiation efforts, while hypersonic nuclear-capable missile strikes signal escalation threats despite lacking genuine military justification.

Notable Moment

Mayor Frey revealed that after the ICE shooting, agents prevented a doctor from providing medical assistance to the dying Renee Goode, violating basic law enforcement protocol requiring officers to render aid even when they caused the injury, highlighting the lack of accountability standards.

Know someone who'd find this useful?

Episode Transcript

Let's do the sixty second savings challenge. Step one, download Rocket Money. Step two, link your accounts and see every subscription you're paying for. Tap one you don't use and cancel it. That's money back every month. Step three, create a financial goal. $50 every paycheck, or let the app automatically move small amounts of cash when you can afford it. In a week, you'll forget you set it up. In a month, you'll see real dollars piling up. In a year, you'll be shocked at how much money you've saved. Bonus challenge. Upload an Internet or phone bill and let Rocket Money try to lower it. You only pay if they find you savings. On average, Rocket Money members can save up to $740 a year when using all of the app's premium features. Users love the app with over a 186,005 star ratings. Make saving money the resolution you actually keep. Start the sixty second savings challenge at rocketmoney.com/cancel. That's rocketmoney.com/cancel. Rocketmoney.com/cancel. Being a nurse means being focused on others. At Post University, our advanced nursing degree programs are focused on you. With 100% online classes, monthly start dates, and accredited programs for BSN, MSN, and DNP degrees, apply now at post.edu. Hey, everybody. After, I taped both these interviews this morning, there was a release of video footage, new video footage from the ICE agent that shot and killed Renee Goode, from his perspective. And, I taped a, extensive second by second breakdown of that, which you can find over on the board, Take Speed, on your audio platform of choice or on YouTube or Substack. To me, it more than confirms everything that we discuss on this show and I've discussed the last few days. And it shows somebody that was the one piece of information we learned is that Renee Goode had greeted him pleasantly and said, I'm not mad, like, twenty seconds before he shoots her. It's an unbelievable piece of footage. Just one note, in in that video, you know, it's all moving very fast. I called it body cam footage. We later learned it was from his cell phone, which he's carrying in his left hand while he's firing three bullets with his right hand, which needless to say is not SOP for an HR, the state. So, go over there to check out more on that. Appreciate very much our guest today and all of you. We'll see you back here next week. Up next, Mayor Jacob Frey. Hello and welcome to the Boulder podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. We have a doubleheader for you today, in the second segment. It's our friend Anne Applebaum, with an autocracy update, both at home and abroad. Look forward to getting to that. But first, we wanted to add the perspective, from somebody who can talk to us directly about what's happening on the ground in Minneapolis. And so I'm excited to welcome to the show, the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey. Thanks …

Get the full transcript (13,779 words) + summary by email — free

One-time email with the complete transcript and AI summary of this episode. No account needed.

One email, no spam. We’ll also show you what SignalCast does.

Browse all The Bulwark Podcast transcripts →

You just read a 3-minute summary of a 66-minute episode.

Get The Bulwark Podcast summarized like this every Monday — plus up to 2 more podcasts, free.

Pick Your Podcasts — Free

Keep Reading

More from The Bulwark Podcast

We summarize every new episode. Want them in your inbox?

Similar Episodes

Related episodes from other podcasts

Explore Related Topics

This podcast is featured in Best Politics Podcasts (2026) — ranked and reviewed with AI summaries.

You're clearly into The Bulwark Podcast.

Every Monday, we deliver AI summaries of the latest episodes from The Bulwark Podcast and 192+ other podcasts. Free for one show.

Start My Monday Digest

No credit card · Unsubscribe anytime