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Arab Aramin, Robi Damelin, Liora Eilon, Mohamed Abu Jafar — Turning Unbearable Loss Into Ground of Shared Life

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Robi Damelin,Arab Aramin,Mohamed Abu Jafar

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66 min

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Relationships, Software Development, Philosophy & Wisdom

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Key Takeaways

  • Rehumanization through direct contact: Arab Aramin spent seven years after his 10-year-old sister Abir was killed by an Israeli soldier consumed by hatred and plans for revenge. The shift came only after meeting Israelis face-to-face and learning their histories of loss. Hearing stories from the other side dismantled the belief that only Palestinians suffer, replacing an abstract enemy with recognizable human grief.
  • Giving up victimhood as a path to agency: Robi Damelin frames the decision to stop identifying as a victim as the foundational act of personal freedom. She tested this conviction publicly by writing an op-ed supporting the release of the man who killed her son David if it would bring hostages home. Regularly asking yourself whether your stated values hold under real pressure is the practice she describes as essential.
  • Structured dialogue sequencing in youth programs: The Parents Circle summer camp brings 25 Palestinian and 25 Israeli youth aged 14–18 together for one week. The first two days are deliberately difficult — conflict, tears, resistance. On day two or three, one Palestinian and one Israeli adult share personal loss stories. That single session consistently shifts the group dynamic toward empathy, with participants refusing to separate by the final night.
  • Changing yourself before trying to change the world: Arab Aramin cites the Rumi line — yesterday clever, wanting to change the world; today wise, changing himself — as the framework that guided his seven-year internal process. He then applied it outward, bringing one close friend to a dialogue meeting. That friend became a frontline activist in Combatants for Peace, demonstrating how one person's transformation creates a replicable chain.
  • Storytelling as identity reconstruction after trauma: Leora Eilon, who lost her son Tal in the October 7 Hamas attack on Kibbutz Kfar Aza, describes telling her story repeatedly not only for audiences but for herself. After severe trauma, retelling the experience in public serves as a self-verification process — confirming that her core values and identity remain intact. Bearing witness, she argues, transfers moral responsibility to the listener.

What It Covers

Four members of the Parents Circle Families Forum — Robi Damelin, Arab Aramin, Leora Eilon, and Mohamed Abu Jafar — share how losing family members to Israeli-Palestinian violence led each toward reconciliation rather than revenge. Their stories, told in New York City, trace the personal transformation from grief and hatred toward dialogue, friendship, and shared humanity.

Key Questions Answered

  • Rehumanization through direct contact: Arab Aramin spent seven years after his 10-year-old sister Abir was killed by an Israeli soldier consumed by hatred and plans for revenge. The shift came only after meeting Israelis face-to-face and learning their histories of loss. Hearing stories from the other side dismantled the belief that only Palestinians suffer, replacing an abstract enemy with recognizable human grief.
  • Giving up victimhood as a path to agency: Robi Damelin frames the decision to stop identifying as a victim as the foundational act of personal freedom. She tested this conviction publicly by writing an op-ed supporting the release of the man who killed her son David if it would bring hostages home. Regularly asking yourself whether your stated values hold under real pressure is the practice she describes as essential.
  • Structured dialogue sequencing in youth programs: The Parents Circle summer camp brings 25 Palestinian and 25 Israeli youth aged 14–18 together for one week. The first two days are deliberately difficult — conflict, tears, resistance. On day two or three, one Palestinian and one Israeli adult share personal loss stories. That single session consistently shifts the group dynamic toward empathy, with participants refusing to separate by the final night.
  • Changing yourself before trying to change the world: Arab Aramin cites the Rumi line — yesterday clever, wanting to change the world; today wise, changing himself — as the framework that guided his seven-year internal process. He then applied it outward, bringing one close friend to a dialogue meeting. That friend became a frontline activist in Combatants for Peace, demonstrating how one person's transformation creates a replicable chain.
  • Storytelling as identity reconstruction after trauma: Leora Eilon, who lost her son Tal in the October 7 Hamas attack on Kibbutz Kfar Aza, describes telling her story repeatedly not only for audiences but for herself. After severe trauma, retelling the experience in public serves as a self-verification process — confirming that her core values and identity remain intact. Bearing witness, she argues, transfers moral responsibility to the listener.
  • Scalable dialogue through online education tools: In response to post-October 7 campus polarization across the United States, the Parents Circle partnered with Georgetown University to build an online education program that replicates the experience of sitting with two forum members. Endorsed by a teachers union federation, the program gives schools a deployable tool for structured Israeli-Palestinian dialogue without requiring in-person facilitation or travel.

Notable Moment

Leora Eilon spent 35 hours locked in a safe room during the October 7 attack with two granddaughters, her daughter, and youngest son. Her 15-year-old granddaughter, using Google Maps, spent hours directing an elite IDF unit to wounded civilians — effectively coordinating their movements throughout the kibbutz during active combat.

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Episode Transcript

A few months ago, I was invited to sit with four people sharing a very different Israeli Palestinian story than that which comes to us in headlines. They are members of the Parent Circle bereaved families forum, a very special community. It's composed of hundreds of Palestinian and Israeli families who despite having paid the highest price of the conflict between their peoples, choose to metabolize their loss as ground of shared suffering and possible reconciliation. I'm so delighted to share that conversation with you now. You will hear their various stories of a transformation of perspective and path. You'll hear me invoke a notion of deep truth from physics that is vividly with me in this time. Terrible ruptures and escalating violence are part of the truth of what we see ourselves capable, but they are not the whole truth and not the inevitable future. Courageous experiments in healing and transformation are also a truth of our time. In a packed room in New York City, I think we all felt like we were witnessing something unimaginable if you only judge the potentials of humanity from the extreme actions that shape what we call the news. The bereaved families forum is extremism in a life giving, heart opening key. We left that room, and may you leave this listening, feeling a little bit healed ourselves with a hopefulness become more magnetic and more reasonable. I'm Krista Tippett, and this is On Being. This event was hosted by the American Friends of the Parents Circle, bereaved Israelis and Palestinians for peace. My conversation partners were Roby Damlin, Arab Aramin, Mohammed Abu Jaffer, and Leora Elon. Leora, who lost her son in their kibbutz on 10/07/2023, is one of the newest members of this group. We were hosted at an extraordinary private art studio and living space in Manhattan. So I, first steeped in the Parents Circle, bereaved families forum in the early two thousands. So, Robby, I was we were wondering when that was in 2006. You and I and Ali Abu Awad, another member, met in a hotel room in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. And then And it was freezing. That we were were we? I don't remember that. You warmed me up. It was a conversation that has stayed in my heart and that just, it seems, has continued to quietly ripple through the world. And I have to say that on October 7 and ever since, I have wondered about all of you and how you are doing and, how you are experiencing and what wisdom you have for us. So I was very delighted to receive this invitation, and I'm honored to be here. And, Robbie, I remember you know, I still remember you telling me sitting with Ali, yeah, with Ali, both of you received a visit from Yitzhak Frankenthal, the founder. From Yitzhak Frankenthal. Yes. And, I remember Ali saying that it was, when he went to a meeting of the Parents Circle, it was the …

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    In response to post-October 7 campus polarization across the United States, the Parents Circle partnered with Georgetown University to build an online education program that replicates the experience of sitting with two forum members. Endorsed by a teachers union federation, the program gives schools a deployable tool for structured Israeli-Palestinian dialogue without requiring in-person facilitation or travel.

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