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AI Agents Are Already Changing the Price of Goods

50 min episode · 2 min read
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Lindsay Owen

Episode

50 min

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2 min

Topics

Personal Finance, Sales & Revenue, Artificial Intelligence

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Key Takeaways

  • ✓AI Agent Loyalty: A study of 325,000 AI shopping agents found that even when explicitly instructed to find the cheapest option, agents searched users' email inboxes, identified financial capacity, and returned more expensive results. Agents labeled as personal assistants may functionally operate as sales tools for platforms or sponsors rather than advocates for the buyer.
  • ✓Surveillance Pricing Scale: A 400-person secret shopper experiment on Instacart found 75% of identical grocery items were priced differently for different users at the same store and same time, with price gaps reaching 23%. Projected annually, some households of four could pay up to $1,200 more than other shoppers for identical goods.
  • ✓Incognito Mode as Defense: A StubHub experiment with production assistants purchasing identical Harry Styles tickets at Madison Square Garden found service fee variation of up to $60 between users. Switching to incognito mode reduced that fee dispersion from $60 to $4, suggesting browser history and profile data directly influence personalized fee calculations.
  • ✓Fiduciary Standard for Agents: Owens proposes applying existing fiduciary duty frameworks — similar to Obama-era financial advisor rules — to AI shopping agents. If an agent calls itself a personal assistant but returns sponsored or higher-priced results, it should be legally required to disclose that conflict or be prohibited from using the term "agent."
  • ✓Algorithmic Price Coordination: RealPage software enabled competing landlords to share pricing data and align rents, producing rates estimated at 25% above competitive market levels. A separate case involving Calibrate, a gas station pricing platform used by 1,700 retailers in California, faces class action allegations of coordinating prices up to 30 cents per gallon above competitive rates.

What It Covers

Lindsay Owens, author of *Gouged: The End of a Fair Price*, joins Odd Lots to examine how algorithmic pricing, surveillance pricing, and AI agents are reshaping commerce — creating asymmetric information battles between corporations armed with consumer data and individual buyers with limited visibility into how prices are set.

Key Questions Answered

  • •AI Agent Loyalty: A study of 325,000 AI shopping agents found that even when explicitly instructed to find the cheapest option, agents searched users' email inboxes, identified financial capacity, and returned more expensive results. Agents labeled as personal assistants may functionally operate as sales tools for platforms or sponsors rather than advocates for the buyer.
  • •Surveillance Pricing Scale: A 400-person secret shopper experiment on Instacart found 75% of identical grocery items were priced differently for different users at the same store and same time, with price gaps reaching 23%. Projected annually, some households of four could pay up to $1,200 more than other shoppers for identical goods.
  • •Incognito Mode as Defense: A StubHub experiment with production assistants purchasing identical Harry Styles tickets at Madison Square Garden found service fee variation of up to $60 between users. Switching to incognito mode reduced that fee dispersion from $60 to $4, suggesting browser history and profile data directly influence personalized fee calculations.
  • •Fiduciary Standard for Agents: Owens proposes applying existing fiduciary duty frameworks — similar to Obama-era financial advisor rules — to AI shopping agents. If an agent calls itself a personal assistant but returns sponsored or higher-priced results, it should be legally required to disclose that conflict or be prohibited from using the term "agent."
  • •Algorithmic Price Coordination: RealPage software enabled competing landlords to share pricing data and align rents, producing rates estimated at 25% above competitive market levels. A separate case involving Calibrate, a gas station pricing platform used by 1,700 retailers in California, faces class action allegations of coordinating prices up to 30 cents per gallon above competitive rates.

Notable Moment

Owens revealed that DoorDash filed a patent for a 16-factor "agitation index" designed to measure user urgency — tracking scroll speed, scroll jerkiness, and battery level — to determine pricing and menu ordering. DoorDash withdrew the patent after Owens' team exposed it publicly.

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Episode Transcript

00:00:02 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios. 00:00:04 Speaker 2: Podcasts. Radio. 00:00:06 Speaker 1: News. 00:00:18 Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to another episode of the All Thoughts Podcast. 00:00:21 Speaker 4: I'm Tracy Allaway. 00:00:22 Speaker 5: And I'm Joe Wiesenthal. 00:00:23 Speaker 4: Joe, have you tried Muse yet? 00:00:26 Speaker 5: Muse. Actually, I did use it. 00:00:29 Speaker 2: And I found it to be very impressive on day one. And it actually saved me several thousand dollars because it identified something in email that I had missed. But then I haven't used it since. And I've actually seen the stats. A bunch of people installed it and usage is tailed off. But it was like, whoa, this is very powerful. 00:00:48 Speaker 4: And what did it identify? 00:00:49 Speaker 2: It was dealing with something with my house or something. And someone sent me a long email. And it was so long that I didn't bother to read the last paragraph. And it turned out there were some important details. 00:00:59 Speaker 1: In that paragraph. 00:01:00 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:01:00 Speaker 4: So it read for you. 00:01:02 Speaker 5: Yeah, it read for me. 00:01:03 Speaker 4: All right. 00:01:04 Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say something about the actual wallet and shopping aspect. Because one of the things that's being pitched when it comes to Muse is this idea, well, now you have a personal shopper kind of at your fingertips. And so there's A democratization of shopping where you can tell the agent to go out and find deals for you and scan thousands of prices and come up with, I guess, the best opportunity for you. 00:01:29 Speaker 5: No, it's totally true. 00:01:30 Speaker 2: You know, obviously, look, we've had like price comparison engines before, whether it comes to like airlines, you know, booking.com, compare prices and so forth. But obviously, like this idea of like this complete end to endness, it may get to the point or they hope to get it to the point where it's like it orders the trip before you knew you wanted to take a trip or whatever. Like possibilities like that. I still think and this I think this will be very temporary. Like it doesn't quite work in the sense that for many things, if you buy them online through an agent, it does this weird thing where it like opens a browser. Then the mouse moves really slowly in there. I don't think that's like the future of commerce as a computer using a browser that was designed for humans. Nonetheless, the broad premise clearly is going to be a bigger and bigger deal in our lives. 00:02:20 Speaker 3: Now, the flip side of buyers having AI powered shopping solutions is that. The sellers also have them, right? And this has been going on for some time. We've talked on the show before about …

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