What are the key takeaways from this In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen episode?

Key insights include: **Crisis Scale Benchmark:** The current disruption exceeds 12 million barrels per day of lost oil supply — more than double the combined losses of the 1973 and 1979 crises (roughly 5 million barrels each), plus natural gas losses surpassing Russia's 2022 cuts.; **European Gas Price Exposure:** Asian buyers, cut off from Middle Eastern LNG, are competing directly on spot markets where Europe typically sources gas. Since European electricity pricing tracks marginal natural gas costs, both gas and electricity prices face simultaneous upward pressure across the continent.; **Targeted Energy Subsidies Framework:** Government support for energy bills is defensible only when structured as temporary and means-tested, directed at vulnerable populations. Broad, open-ended subsidies risk entrenching political dependency and distorting market signals during the adjustment period.

What did Fatih Birol discuss on In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen?

Fatih Birol, Executive Director of the International Energy Agency, argues the current Middle East energy crisis surpasses all historical precedents, including the 1973 and 1979 oil shocks, and outlines structural shifts expected in global energy markets. Key topics include: **Crisis Scale Benchmark:** The current disruption exceeds 12 million barrels per day of lost oil supply — more than double the combined losses of the 1973 and 1979 crises (roughly 5 million barrels each), plus natural gas losses surpassing Russia's 2022 cuts.; **European Gas Price Exposure:** Asian buyers, cut off from Middle Eastern LNG, are competing directly on spot markets where Europe typically sources gas. Since European electricity pricing tracks marginal natural gas costs, both gas and electricity prices face simultaneous upward pressure across the continent..

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In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen

HIGHLIGHTS: Fatih Birol - Executive Director of the International Energy Agency

April 3, 2026

10 min episode · 2 min read

Fatih Birol

Episode

10 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Productivity, Fundraising & VC, Leadership

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Published Apr 3, 2026

Key Takeaways

✓Crisis Scale Benchmark: The current disruption exceeds 12 million barrels per day of lost oil supply — more than double the combined losses of the 1973 and 1979 crises (roughly 5 million barrels each), plus natural gas losses surpassing Russia's 2022 cuts.
✓European Gas Price Exposure: Asian buyers, cut off from Middle Eastern LNG, are competing directly on spot markets where Europe typically sources gas. Since European electricity pricing tracks marginal natural gas costs, both gas and electricity prices face simultaneous upward pressure across the continent.
✓Targeted Energy Subsidies Framework: Government support for energy bills is defensible only when structured as temporary and means-tested, directed at vulnerable populations. Broad, open-ended subsidies risk entrenching political dependency and distorting market signals during the adjustment period.
✓Historical Energy Transition Playbook: Past oil crises triggered three measurable responses — 170 gigawatts of nuclear capacity built (representing roughly 40% of today's fleet), vehicle fuel efficiency halved from 20 to 10 liters per 100km, and accelerated North Sea domestic production — patterns Birol expects to repeat with nuclear, EVs, and renewables.

What It Covers

Fatih Birol, Executive Director of the International Energy Agency, argues the current Middle East energy crisis surpasses all historical precedents, including the 1973 and 1979 oil shocks, and outlines structural shifts expected in global energy markets.

Key Questions Answered

•Crisis Scale Benchmark: The current disruption exceeds 12 million barrels per day of lost oil supply — more than double the combined losses of the 1973 and 1979 crises (roughly 5 million barrels each), plus natural gas losses surpassing Russia's 2022 cuts.
•European Gas Price Exposure: Asian buyers, cut off from Middle Eastern LNG, are competing directly on spot markets where Europe typically sources gas. Since European electricity pricing tracks marginal natural gas costs, both gas and electricity prices face simultaneous upward pressure across the continent.
•Targeted Energy Subsidies Framework: Government support for energy bills is defensible only when structured as temporary and means-tested, directed at vulnerable populations. Broad, open-ended subsidies risk entrenching political dependency and distorting market signals during the adjustment period.
•Historical Energy Transition Playbook: Past oil crises triggered three measurable responses — 170 gigawatts of nuclear capacity built (representing roughly 40% of today's fleet), vehicle fuel efficiency halved from 20 to 10 liters per 100km, and accelerated North Sea domestic production — patterns Birol expects to repeat with nuclear, EVs, and renewables.

Notable Moment

Birol warns that sustained high energy prices in Europe could create political conditions exploitable by extreme movements, particularly given the timing of several major European elections — a rare political observation from a typically technical intergovernmental official.

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Episode Transcript

Hi, everybody. Tune in to this short version of the podcast, which we do every Friday. For the long version, tune in on Wednesdays. Hi, everybody, and welcome to In Good Company. I'm Nicola Tangen, the CEO of the Norwegian Sovereign Wealth Fund. And today, we have a tremendous guest, doctor Fatih Birol, executive director of the International Energy Agency. And wow, what a topical podcast this is going to be. So, big welcome, Fatih. Thank you very much, Nikolai. Now you have warned that markets and politicians are still underestimating the consequences of the crisis in The Middle East. What are they getting wrong? You know, Nikolai, we're a intergovernmental organization. We work for the, government's public institution. After, the war has started, since there are many market related, dynamics, I told my colleagues and myself, three weeks, we didn't make any public statements. But I I saw that the the decision makers, governments in Europe, but around the world, didn't understand how big the problem, is and can be not for the energy sector, but for the global economy. So it is the reason I decided, I think it was a week ago or so, to come up with some numbers, make the people understand that this is a serious issue for all of us, and, the, the way to deal with this is, first, we recognize what a big problem it is, and I try to describe what the problem is. And, I think it was, in my view, a good move that the, it was, give a a big, drive to policy makers to discuss more intensely about the situation. You've said that it's the greatest global energy security threat in history, and bigger than 73 and so on. Just what do you, what metrics are you looking at? So, you know, we have many energy crisis, unfortunately. But when we look at the last couple of decades, three of them, stand. One of them, the seventy three oil crisis, seventy nine oil crisis, and, 2022, Russia invasion of, Ukraine and gas. So when you look at the oil crisis, 7379, in both of them, we lost each about 5,000,000 barrels per day of oil. So five plus five, it's about 10. And, we all know, that this, oil crisis led to, global recession in many countries, developing countries, foreign debt spiral they fell into. And today, as it extend now, we lost 12,000,000 barrels per day. So two more than two of this oil crisis put together. In terms of natural gas, when, Russia cut the gas, we lost around 75, BCM of, gas. And now the amount of gas we lost now is higher than, the, the Russian, gas crisis, which means the current crisis is more than all these three crisis put together. How will this pan out going forward? I think I was very happy that the many governments, understood, how serious it is, and, I was very happy to see that …

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