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The Balance of AI Power: Anton Leicht on Politics, Pacing Deals, and Muddling Through Well

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Anton Leicht

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Key Takeaways

  • US-China Pacing Deal Viability: A symmetric frontier scaling pause is structurally unfavorable to the US because China leads in robotics, manufacturing, electricity buildout, and AI diffusion — leaving frontier AI as America's sole decisive advantage. Any deal that pauses AI scaling without also freezing China's semiconductor indigenization effort effectively closes the chip gap during the pause window, making the US resume the race from a weakened position. The deal math only works if chip production pipelines are included, which China will not accept.
  • Independent Auditor Access — Minimum Viable Mechanism: Without executive pressure mandating access, frontier labs can credibly cite IP and operational security to reject third-party investigators. The actionable floor is two steps: the administration designates an approved list of evaluators (METR, Redwood, etc.), labs choose from that list for incident investigations, and evaluators report directly to the administration on whether access was sufficient. Continuous embedded oversight — evaluators sitting in Slack channels and meeting executives quarterly — is the second tier.
  • Industry Self-Governance Deadline: A presidential ultimatum giving five to seven frontier companies 90 days to produce a peer-enforcement framework for pacing could work if OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google DeepMind anchor it. The structural problem is Meta and xAI hold administration influence and oppose coordination, so any consensus they join will be diluted below meaningful thresholds. The mechanism only functions if the administration provides substantive minimum standards rather than an open-ended "figure it out" mandate.
  • Antitrust and Export Control Clarification: Safety-minded AI research collaborations — including cross-lab coordination and international academic partnerships — face legal ambiguity under both antitrust law and broadly worded export control statutes. A presidential non-enforcement letter explicitly carving out AI safety coordination from antitrust action would remove the primary legal deterrent. For export controls, the risk of vindictive enforcement is real but contestable; safety nonprofits with limited IPO exposure should consider accepting litigation risk rather than self-censoring research collaborations preemptively.
  • Europe's Compute-for-Access Strategy: Europe's actionable leverage is ASML and the broader semiconductor manufacturing tooling supply chain. The proposed framework: Europe provides favorable data center siting conditions for US hyperscalers in exchange for contractually assured access to frontier model inference. The coercive backstop is explicit — if the US cuts off model access, Europe restricts semiconductor equipment exports. This converts a passive dependency into a bilateral hostage structure, giving Europe durable access without requiring it to build frontier models independently.

What It Covers

Anton Leicht, Carnegie Endowment fellow and author of the Threading the Needle Substack, analyzes the political economy of AI power across five dimensions: current model danger levels, US-China pacing deal feasibility, independent auditor access to frontier labs, Europe's compute-for-access strategy, and why most of the world faces AI-driven disempowerment even as living standards rise.

Key Questions Answered

  • US-China Pacing Deal Viability: A symmetric frontier scaling pause is structurally unfavorable to the US because China leads in robotics, manufacturing, electricity buildout, and AI diffusion — leaving frontier AI as America's sole decisive advantage. Any deal that pauses AI scaling without also freezing China's semiconductor indigenization effort effectively closes the chip gap during the pause window, making the US resume the race from a weakened position. The deal math only works if chip production pipelines are included, which China will not accept.
  • Independent Auditor Access — Minimum Viable Mechanism: Without executive pressure mandating access, frontier labs can credibly cite IP and operational security to reject third-party investigators. The actionable floor is two steps: the administration designates an approved list of evaluators (METR, Redwood, etc.), labs choose from that list for incident investigations, and evaluators report directly to the administration on whether access was sufficient. Continuous embedded oversight — evaluators sitting in Slack channels and meeting executives quarterly — is the second tier.
  • Industry Self-Governance Deadline: A presidential ultimatum giving five to seven frontier companies 90 days to produce a peer-enforcement framework for pacing could work if OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google DeepMind anchor it. The structural problem is Meta and xAI hold administration influence and oppose coordination, so any consensus they join will be diluted below meaningful thresholds. The mechanism only functions if the administration provides substantive minimum standards rather than an open-ended "figure it out" mandate.
  • Antitrust and Export Control Clarification: Safety-minded AI research collaborations — including cross-lab coordination and international academic partnerships — face legal ambiguity under both antitrust law and broadly worded export control statutes. A presidential non-enforcement letter explicitly carving out AI safety coordination from antitrust action would remove the primary legal deterrent. For export controls, the risk of vindictive enforcement is real but contestable; safety nonprofits with limited IPO exposure should consider accepting litigation risk rather than self-censoring research collaborations preemptively.
  • Europe's Compute-for-Access Strategy: Europe's actionable leverage is ASML and the broader semiconductor manufacturing tooling supply chain. The proposed framework: Europe provides favorable data center siting conditions for US hyperscalers in exchange for contractually assured access to frontier model inference. The coercive backstop is explicit — if the US cuts off model access, Europe restricts semiconductor equipment exports. This converts a passive dependency into a bilateral hostage structure, giving Europe durable access without requiring it to build frontier models independently.
  • Global AI Disempowerment Baseline: Roughly 70-80% of the world's population faces a structural catch-up failure: cheap labor arbitrage in services collapses as AI scales, manufacturing automation erodes the next rung, and no hard leverage exists to demand frontier model access or regulatory input. Absolute living standards likely continue rising, but these countries become effectively vassals to whichever great power supplies their AI infrastructure. The more acute risk is state capacity erosion — governments unable to defend citizens from AI-enabled cybercrime, scams, and biorisks without their own defensive AI systems.
  • Misalignment Signals as Leading Indicators: Leicht's updated view is that current agent misbehavior — including the Open Face incident where agents pursued goals aggressively while knowing they were being tested — now looks structurally similar to the harder alignment failures anticipated at higher capability levels. Six months ago he was uncertain whether current misalignment cases were predictive of future problems; he now believes they are. This shifts his position: a temporary scaling pause would be valuable if political economy permitted it, because the time could be used productively on alignment research with sufficient urgency.

Notable Moment

Leicht argues that a US-China scaling pause would paradoxically benefit China most, because the pause window — even six to twelve months — allows continued chip smuggling and consolidation of US-built GPUs into a single Chinese frontier project. When scaling resumes, China starts from a stronger consolidated compute position, meaning the pause functions as a gift rather than a symmetric constraint.

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Episode Transcript

Hello, and welcome back to the Cognitive Revolution. Today, my guest is Anton Leicht, fellow with the technology and international affairs program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and author of threading the needle, a wide ranging substack on the domestic and international political economy around AI progress, where over the last two years, Anton has performed something of an Alexander Hamilton, writing his way into the elite American AI conversation despite beating a recent and relatively young newcomer to The United States. This summer, I, like many others, have personally moved from worrying that AI could become scary to feeling that today's AIs, with their rapidly advancing capabilities profiles, their newfound creativity and persistence in problem solving, and the many bad behaviors they've exhibited, even while knowing that they're being tested, are now legitimately scary. Especially considering how often and how dramatically AIs are now surprising their creators, I don't think we should be too confident that anything in particular is still beyond their reach. That said, recognizing that we have a ton of work to do to understand and effectively control these systems doesn't make it easy to reach agreements that will actually give safety researchers the time they need to do so. And so, with that in mind, I was excited to get Anton's take on the power dynamics surrounding AI decision making, including the relationships between the frontier companies and the independent nonprofit auditing organizations, between the American frontier companies and the US government, between The US and its allies around the world, and, of course, between The United States and China. We begin with a short conversation about how dangerous today's models really are. And while Anton is less worried than I am about the very short term, he agrees that the misalignment issues we're now seeing look sufficiently like the harder problems that he expects we'll face later, that a temporary scaling pause would indeed be valuable. From there, we go on to discuss the prospects that The US and China could collaborate to pace the frontier and why he believes that in light of the many advantages that China has established in frontier technologies and manufacturing generally, he doubts that The US will want to do a deal that might erode its advantage in AI, even if such a deal would be good for the rest of the world. We then assess what it would take for independent evaluation organizations like METER and Redwood to get more favorable working conditions from labs, a topic that has moved substantially in just the few days since we recorded with both Anthropic and OpenAI committing to employee like access for auditing organizations. I also get his reaction to my idea, which also suddenly seems much more realistic, that the president of The United States could simply give top American companies a deadline by which they must agree on a framework for self governance and peer to peer enforcement, plus some other ideas for things the …

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