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Episode 195 - September 11, 2026

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60 min

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Productivity, Relationships, Investing

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Key Takeaways

  • FDA Stabilization Signal: The permanent appointments of Michael Davis at CDER and Kareem Mikhail at CBER mark a shift toward regulatory predictability after five CDER director turnovers since 2025. Mikhail has explicitly framed his role as a "conductor" rather than a unilateral decision-maker, signaling a return to scientific consensus-driven approvals. Biotech investors should monitor Davis's stance on compounded GLP-1s and psychedelics as near-term policy indicators.
  • LP(a) Cardiovascular Thesis Weakens: Novartis's Horizon trial, enrolling ~8,000 patients with average LDL of 60–65, produced a fully negative outcome for pelicarcen despite 80% LP(a) reduction. The failure pattern—slower-than-modeled event rates—mirrors early signals in Amgen's ongoing LP(a) trial. Investors tracking Amgen and Lilly's LP(a) programs should treat mismodeled event pacing as a leading indicator of likely trial failure, not a neutral operational footnote.
  • DM1 Modality Risk—ASO vs. siRNA: Novartis's Avidity-derived siRNA drug failed its Phase 3 VHOT endpoint in DM1, raising questions about whether cytoplasmic siRNA mechanisms can effectively silence nuclear-retained DMPK RNA. Dyne Therapeutics' ASO approach shows ~25% placebo-adjusted CASI-22 splice correction, a mechanistically more appropriate modality for nuclear targets. Expansion cohort data from Dyne arrives early next year and now carries higher strategic significance.
  • Large-Cap M&A Pricing Risk: Novartis's $12B Avidity acquisition, which modeled ~$6B peak sales, is now facing activist pressure from Artisan Partners demanding board restructuring and compensation reform. Analysis shows large-cap pharma deals routinely inflate revenue projections in SEC filings to justify multiples. A portfolio strategy of six smaller, earlier-stage acquisitions targeting ~35–40% probability of success outperforms single high-conviction late-stage bets priced at near-certainty multiples.
  • Roivant's PHILD Phase 2 Outperformance: Roivant's inhaled soluble guanylate cyclase agonist (in-licensed from Bayer) achieved a 56% pulmonary vascular resistance reduction and 36-meter six-minute walk improvement at 16 weeks, reaching ~50 meters by 48 weeks in PHILD patients. Phase 3 was already enrolling at data release. With low cough burden versus competitor Tyvaso and a ~$2.5B addressable market at modest penetration, the program represents a concrete execution benchmark for rare pulmonary disease development timelines.

What It Covers

Biotech Hangout Episode 195 covers a turbulent week for biotech markets driven by oil-price inflation and rising Treasury yields, alongside major FDA leadership confirmations, Novartis's dual Phase 3 failures in LP(a) reduction and DM1, positive Phase 2 data from Roivant in pulmonary hypertension, and emerging oral amylin weight-loss data from Structured Therapeutics.

Key Questions Answered

  • FDA Stabilization Signal: The permanent appointments of Michael Davis at CDER and Kareem Mikhail at CBER mark a shift toward regulatory predictability after five CDER director turnovers since 2025. Mikhail has explicitly framed his role as a "conductor" rather than a unilateral decision-maker, signaling a return to scientific consensus-driven approvals. Biotech investors should monitor Davis's stance on compounded GLP-1s and psychedelics as near-term policy indicators.
  • LP(a) Cardiovascular Thesis Weakens: Novartis's Horizon trial, enrolling ~8,000 patients with average LDL of 60–65, produced a fully negative outcome for pelicarcen despite 80% LP(a) reduction. The failure pattern—slower-than-modeled event rates—mirrors early signals in Amgen's ongoing LP(a) trial. Investors tracking Amgen and Lilly's LP(a) programs should treat mismodeled event pacing as a leading indicator of likely trial failure, not a neutral operational footnote.
  • DM1 Modality Risk—ASO vs. siRNA: Novartis's Avidity-derived siRNA drug failed its Phase 3 VHOT endpoint in DM1, raising questions about whether cytoplasmic siRNA mechanisms can effectively silence nuclear-retained DMPK RNA. Dyne Therapeutics' ASO approach shows ~25% placebo-adjusted CASI-22 splice correction, a mechanistically more appropriate modality for nuclear targets. Expansion cohort data from Dyne arrives early next year and now carries higher strategic significance.
  • Large-Cap M&A Pricing Risk: Novartis's $12B Avidity acquisition, which modeled ~$6B peak sales, is now facing activist pressure from Artisan Partners demanding board restructuring and compensation reform. Analysis shows large-cap pharma deals routinely inflate revenue projections in SEC filings to justify multiples. A portfolio strategy of six smaller, earlier-stage acquisitions targeting ~35–40% probability of success outperforms single high-conviction late-stage bets priced at near-certainty multiples.
  • Roivant's PHILD Phase 2 Outperformance: Roivant's inhaled soluble guanylate cyclase agonist (in-licensed from Bayer) achieved a 56% pulmonary vascular resistance reduction and 36-meter six-minute walk improvement at 16 weeks, reaching ~50 meters by 48 weeks in PHILD patients. Phase 3 was already enrolling at data release. With low cough burden versus competitor Tyvaso and a ~$2.5B addressable market at modest penetration, the program represents a concrete execution benchmark for rare pulmonary disease development timelines.
  • Biotech Rate Sensitivity—Threshold Matters: XBI declined ~3% during a week where Brent crude exceeded $108/barrel and 10-year Treasuries approached 5%, driven by US-Iran conflict. Rate sensitivity in biotech is not linear—25-basis-point moves have minimal sector impact, but multi-hundred-basis-point escalation cycles (as seen in 2022–2023) compress valuations structurally. Investors should track Fed funds trajectory over 12-month windows, not individual meeting decisions, as the relevant macro signal for biotech allocation.

Notable Moment

Novartis released two separate Phase 3 failures—LP(a) and DM1—over a single Labor Day weekend, both after market close on a Friday. The DM1 failure directly impaired a $12B acquisition completed less than a year prior, triggering an activist letter and prompting analysts to cut long-term EPS growth forecasts by approximately 200 basis points.

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Episode Transcript

You're listening to Biotech Hangout, a live and unedited weekly discussion of all the latest news in our industry with a group of biotech experts and leaders. I'm Tess Cameron and my cohosts today are Brian Skorney, Paul Matisse and Yaron Weber. For more information about our hosts and guest speakers, or to listen to the most recent episode, please go to biotechhangout.com. So, thanks so much for joining everyone. We've had an interesting week. It's been a somewhat challenging back to school week for the XBI, which is down just a little over 3% over the past week or so. And it's been a pretty challenging tape overall. There was a pretty significant sell off just on the stock market overall due to oil prices spiking in the US Iran war, bread crude getting up to above $108 a barrel, and 10 treasuries reaching highs that they haven't been at for many years, 4.8%, and then getting close to 5% on Thursday. So, a lot of that really being linked to concerns about energy prices, concerns about the state of inflation, concerns about long term fiscal health of The US economy. And that obviously has an impact on biotech. Biotech has always been a rate sensitive sector. And we saw biotech decline a bit more than the overall S and P this week, but not as much as tech heavy NASDAQ index. So interested in any comments from Brian and Paul and your own, but I think a couple of years ago, we were living in an environment where biotech and rates were very close together, and then 2024 was very much a policy driven year. Are we getting back to rates really bringing one of the driving macro sector level points? Yeah. So look, mean, the way I've always sort of characterized it, and maybe this morning when XPO was up on a hot inflation number, I questioned whether this would be right. But right, like, to me it's not so much that it's rate sensitive to like small up and down movements, but like the concept of like, are we gonna, you know, escalate in, you know, 100 basis point moves over a year or over two years. Right? So, like, when you see, you know, Fed funds rate going to high single digits, right, like, that's very bad. Going to, like, towards zero, that's very good. But, you know, like, when they're you're talking a 25 basis point change here or there every now and then. You you know, you could you could deal more with fund fundamentals. So, you know, I guess I guess it's not surprising as as we're talking a little bit more and more, you know, about inflation being thematic and, right, like, the Fed may be escalating rates even though Trump has been such a big advocate for lowering rates. And and, you know, his his appointed chairman seems to be a little a little more hawkish than maybe do us …

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