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Episode 190 - July 24, 2026

58 min episode · 2 min read
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Josh Shimmer,Brian Smorny,Brad Lonecar

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58 min

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2 min

Topics

Investing, Fundraising & VC, Marketing

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Key Takeaways

  • Early-Stage IPO Signal: When biotech markets peak, risk tolerance expands and earlier-stage companies access public markets — Scribe raised $120M with only an Australian TGA clearance in hand. Investors should treat preclinical or near-preclinical IPOs as a cycle indicator, not a green light; Sana Biotechnologies raised $600M at $4.5B pre-money in 2021 and has since collapsed in valuation.
  • Reverse Merger Evolution: Six biotech reverse mergers have now closed with $200M+ concurrent PIPE financings — up from three last year and one the year prior. This structure trades broad institutional exposure and sell-side research coverage for speed and lower fees. Investors entering these deals should expect a 6-12 month lag before the company builds a full public market following.
  • Narrative as Capital Strategy: Colossal Biosciences is pursuing a $20-30B private valuation by selling de-extinction as a story, not a proven revenue model. Biotech companies struggling to raise capital should study this: packaging science into a narrative that resonates beyond specialist investors demonstrably unlocks larger funding pools, regardless of clinical or commercial stage.
  • DMD Regulatory Benchmark: DYNE Therapeutics' BLA for z-rostodirsen received FDA acceptance with a late-January PDUFA date. The drug delivers materially higher dystrophin expression than Sarepta's exon-51 drug and shifts dosing from weekly to monthly. Given the low efficacy bar already set by approved PMO drugs, approval appears highly probable, making this a cleaner risk-reward setup than the investor debate suggests.
  • Science Communication Gap: Biotech TV's Boston summit embedded 20 science communicators — each with 400,000-500,000 social media followers — directly inside Moderna, Alnylam, and six other companies for lab tours and one-on-one scientist interviews. This model of connecting credentialed, high-reach communicators with corporate R&D teams offers a replicable template for countering misinformation at scale.

What It Covers

Biotech Hangout Episode 190 covers the reopening IPO window via Scribe Therapeutics' early-stage $120M offering, reverse merger financing trends, Colossal Biosciences' $20-30B valuation round, the MX Biopharma CMO fraud scandal, DYNE Therapeutics' DMD BLA acceptance, and two upcoming FDA AdCom panels for Replimmune and Capricor.

Key Questions Answered

  • Early-Stage IPO Signal: When biotech markets peak, risk tolerance expands and earlier-stage companies access public markets — Scribe raised $120M with only an Australian TGA clearance in hand. Investors should treat preclinical or near-preclinical IPOs as a cycle indicator, not a green light; Sana Biotechnologies raised $600M at $4.5B pre-money in 2021 and has since collapsed in valuation.
  • Reverse Merger Evolution: Six biotech reverse mergers have now closed with $200M+ concurrent PIPE financings — up from three last year and one the year prior. This structure trades broad institutional exposure and sell-side research coverage for speed and lower fees. Investors entering these deals should expect a 6-12 month lag before the company builds a full public market following.
  • Narrative as Capital Strategy: Colossal Biosciences is pursuing a $20-30B private valuation by selling de-extinction as a story, not a proven revenue model. Biotech companies struggling to raise capital should study this: packaging science into a narrative that resonates beyond specialist investors demonstrably unlocks larger funding pools, regardless of clinical or commercial stage.
  • DMD Regulatory Benchmark: DYNE Therapeutics' BLA for z-rostodirsen received FDA acceptance with a late-January PDUFA date. The drug delivers materially higher dystrophin expression than Sarepta's exon-51 drug and shifts dosing from weekly to monthly. Given the low efficacy bar already set by approved PMO drugs, approval appears highly probable, making this a cleaner risk-reward setup than the investor debate suggests.
  • Science Communication Gap: Biotech TV's Boston summit embedded 20 science communicators — each with 400,000-500,000 social media followers — directly inside Moderna, Alnylam, and six other companies for lab tours and one-on-one scientist interviews. This model of connecting credentialed, high-reach communicators with corporate R&D teams offers a replicable template for countering misinformation at scale.

Notable Moment

MX Biopharma's chief medical officer, hired in March, was arrested on a sailboat off New Jersey after fleeing a criminal conviction 20 years ago under a false identity. The company's sole public response was an 8-K stating the termination was not a material event.

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Episode Transcript

You're listening to the biotech hangout, a live and unedited weekly discussion of all the latest news in our industry with a group of biotech insiders and experts. I'm Eric Schmidt, and my cohost today are Josh Shimmer, Brian Smorny, and Brad Lonecar. For more information about our our host and guest speakers please go to biotechhangout.com. Thanks everyone for joining. It will start with capital raising in biotech. In particular, we had one of the first early stage IPOs in in quite some time. We've also continued to see some, some companies go public via, maybe less traditional reverse merge merger route. And and and, Brian, I know you flagged a colossal, private potential offering in the space as well, which we'll we'll catch. Bunch of industry news this week, that, of course, will deserve more commentary including, some drama, I would say, and and and also some progress. We're gonna talk about the FDA environment and and as well, this in in advance of two very important ad comm meetings next week, and maybe we'll close with, the topic of whether the SEC is gonna begin to change, how companies are permitted or allowed to to do their quarterly into semiannual, filings for for queues. So lot to cover. Brian, I think it's just still you and I. Let's start with with the IPOs and the capital raising. We did just last night, price for this morning, see Scribe go public. This is probably the first very early stage company to go public, since the COVID era. I guess we can't quite call it a preclinical IPO because according to Scribe's, prospectus, they they are using their gene silencing technology, in the clinic now. They just recently got approval in Australia, I believe, to to, to begin to interrogate their lead candidate, which is a PCS canine, targeted therapy for hypercholesterolemia. But since that clearance of the, Australian TGA just just happened maybe less than two months ago, certainly, this is an early stage IPO. Again, maybe not a preclinical IPO, but something that we haven't really seen much about, from the last, you know, five four, five years now. It was a bit of a monetized deal priced at over a $100,000,000, but it it was upsized, and and we'll see how well received it is. So I guess the first question that we we'd like to, take on is what this means for the broader biotech sector. Are we slip sliding away into, an era where we're gonna start to see earlier and early stage companies go public? And what what do you make of that, Brian? Yeah. Look. I mean, I think and and we sort of address this multiple times. Right? There there's just a cycle, and I've never seen the cycle not at peak absorb very early stage things. But I think I've also commented I haven't really seen, the durability of the cycle allow for preclinical assets, preclinical companies to kind of …

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  • Biotech Hangout Episode 190 covers the reopening IPO window via Scribe Therapeutics' early-stage $120M offering
  • Colossal Biosciences' $20-30B valuation round
  • MX Biopharma CMO fraud scandal
  • DYNE Therapeutics' DMD BLA acceptance
  • two upcoming FDA AdCom panels for Replimmune and Capricor
  • two upcoming FDA AdCom panels for Replimmune and Capricor
  • Sana Biotechnologies raised $600M at $4.5B pre-money in 2021 and has since collapsed in valuation
  • The drug delivers materially higher dystrophin expression than Sarepta's exon-51 drug

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