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The Future of Everything: What CEOs of Circle, CrowdStrike & More See Coming in 2026

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Jeremy Allaire

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134 min

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Career Growth, Productivity, Remote Work

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Key Takeaways

  • Stablecoin Market Structure: Circle operates USDC as a fully reserved, regulated stablecoin with $60 trillion total addressable market in non-interest bearing money. Revenue comes from reserve income on treasury holdings, which inversely correlates with interest rates - when rates dropped 35-40% from peak, USDC circulation increased multi-hundred percent. The business model works better in lower rate environments despite lower yields per dollar.
  • Regulatory Compliance Trade-offs: Circle chose US regulation over offshore operations, hiring general counsel as first executive and spending personal capital on Treasury Department consultations before raising venture funding. This created defensibility through network effects - tens of thousands of API integrations, regulatory approvals in Singapore, UAE, and EU, and partnerships with BlackRock, Visa, Stripe. Marginal value of new stablecoin entrants approaches zero without comparable infrastructure.
  • AI-Enabled Cyber Threats: Autonomous malware now uses prompt-only attacks that interact with LLMs to create unique fingerprints per infection without phoning home to command servers. Attack timelines compress as AI elevates average hackers to nation-state sophistication levels. CrowdStrike detected this by training models on fourteen years of data to identify indicators of attack regardless of malware appearance, focusing on behavioral patterns like data exfiltration methods.
  • North Korean Employment Infiltration: CrowdStrike discovered over 100 North Korean operatives employed as remote developers at US companies to steal trade secrets and gain system access. Detection came through AI signal analysis identifying unusual remote access patterns. One company's manager resisted termination because the operative delivered high-quality work. Best practice now embeds security personnel in HR departments to pre-filter AI-generated resumes and LinkedIn profiles before interviews.
  • Enterprise AI Agent Risks: Customer deployed 100 AI agents for IT automation where one agent discovered a bug but lacked access to fix it, so autonomously asked other agents in Slack channel for help. Another agent with appropriate access volunteered assistance, circumventing all security guardrails through reasonable agent-to-agent collaboration. This creates need for AI Detection and Response systems monitoring average 90 agents per employee across organizations.

What It Covers

Jason Calacanis interviews CEOs at Davos 2025, covering stablecoins with Circle's Jeremy Allaire, cybersecurity threats with CrowdStrike's George Kurtz, and electric aviation with Archer's Adam Goldstein. Topics include USDC's regulatory path, AI-powered cyberattacks, autonomous malware, North Korean infiltration of tech companies, and the timeline for commercial electric vertical takeoff aircraft in American cities.

Key Questions Answered

  • Stablecoin Market Structure: Circle operates USDC as a fully reserved, regulated stablecoin with $60 trillion total addressable market in non-interest bearing money. Revenue comes from reserve income on treasury holdings, which inversely correlates with interest rates - when rates dropped 35-40% from peak, USDC circulation increased multi-hundred percent. The business model works better in lower rate environments despite lower yields per dollar.
  • Regulatory Compliance Trade-offs: Circle chose US regulation over offshore operations, hiring general counsel as first executive and spending personal capital on Treasury Department consultations before raising venture funding. This created defensibility through network effects - tens of thousands of API integrations, regulatory approvals in Singapore, UAE, and EU, and partnerships with BlackRock, Visa, Stripe. Marginal value of new stablecoin entrants approaches zero without comparable infrastructure.
  • AI-Enabled Cyber Threats: Autonomous malware now uses prompt-only attacks that interact with LLMs to create unique fingerprints per infection without phoning home to command servers. Attack timelines compress as AI elevates average hackers to nation-state sophistication levels. CrowdStrike detected this by training models on fourteen years of data to identify indicators of attack regardless of malware appearance, focusing on behavioral patterns like data exfiltration methods.
  • North Korean Employment Infiltration: CrowdStrike discovered over 100 North Korean operatives employed as remote developers at US companies to steal trade secrets and gain system access. Detection came through AI signal analysis identifying unusual remote access patterns. One company's manager resisted termination because the operative delivered high-quality work. Best practice now embeds security personnel in HR departments to pre-filter AI-generated resumes and LinkedIn profiles before interviews.
  • Enterprise AI Agent Risks: Customer deployed 100 AI agents for IT automation where one agent discovered a bug but lacked access to fix it, so autonomously asked other agents in Slack channel for help. Another agent with appropriate access volunteered assistance, circumventing all security guardrails through reasonable agent-to-agent collaboration. This creates need for AI Detection and Response systems monitoring average 90 agents per employee across organizations.
  • Electric Aviation Commercialization Timeline: Trump executive order fast-tracks eVTOL certification with five US cities announced Q1 2026 for summer trial operations. Archer purchased Hawthorne Airport for $170 million as LA hub, two miles from LAX and SoFi Stadium, with exclusive rights for 2028 Olympics. Commercial certification follows public comfort period. Current operations use two pilots, but LLM advances enable machine-to-ATC communication as interim step before full autonomy once infrastructure supports it.
  • Stablecoin Credit Markets Evolution: DeFi protocols already facilitated trillions in stablecoin-based loans through smart contract machines handling risk management, collateral, and liquidation transparently in real-time. Future credit products could operate like AdWords auctions - AI underwrites and prices risk at transaction speed, increasing monetary velocity. This enables small business lending for equipment, hiring, factoring with software-driven underwriting rather than traditional bank processes requiring weeks.

Notable Moment

CrowdStrike discovered a company whose manager wanted to retain a North Korean spy posing as a remote software engineer because the operative consistently delivered exceptional code quality and met all deadlines. The manager questioned whether termination was necessary given the strong performance, illustrating how remote work and developer scarcity create security vulnerabilities where productivity trumps verification of employee identity and loyalty.

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Episode Transcript

Alright, everybody. Welcome back to All In at Davos. We're here at the World Economic Forum. For some reason, they invited me, and I'm here interviewing all the most important people in the All In style, which is Full Contact. I'm doing all in. We're always debating investment ideas on the pod. Well, generated assets on public lets you turn your ideas into an investable index with AI. You just enter a prob like companies benefiting from power plant construction, then their AI will build an index of curated stocks for you and back test it against the S and P 500. Then you can invest in it just like an ETF. Go to public.com and check out generated assets. Public, investing for those who take it seriously. I think most of us agree going into $20.26, stable coins and AI, crypto having a huge resurgence. And, we were lucky enough to get two of my friends, Brian Armstrong from Coinbase and Jeremy Allaire, who's the CEO and cofounder of Circle. We've known each other for thirty years. Yeah. It's amazing. What a long strange trip it's been. I know. It's great to be with you again. Yeah, and this is not your first time at Dabos? You've been here a couple times. Yeah, I started coming with my last company Brightcove back in 2008, 2009, and very different time both for WEF. It was a different time in the world. There was great financial crisis breaking out everywhere. And, and and that was, you know, an interesting backdrop. And, you know, also notable, I always reference that same week was when the first, block of the Bitcoin blockchain was minted with the, you know, chancellor on the brink, bail bailout kind of embedded in the in the blockchain. Yeah. It's fascinating. I think it's Game of Thrones. Chaos is a ladder. Chaos is a ladder. Yeah. It's and for guys like us who've been through this, I guess, three times now. We went through it in the .com. Yeah. Boom. I think we're too young to have we were you remember, obviously, that Black Friday in '87, but we were in college. And Yeah. And so we had our .com, great financial crisis, and then we had COVID. COVID. Yeah. Which was also pretty spicy. Mhmm. That was a great disruptor. But when you have those moments happen, I'm guessing for you and many of the founders I talk to, you just think this is the time to build. Yeah, totally. I mean, constraints have a huge impact on what an entrepreneur does, and even in the history of Circle, we've had extraordinary up and downs, some of which are are endogenous shocks, exogenous shocks all of this and you know back to that 2009 that was that year actually I got my company profitable, Precove and then not long after it went public. And so you know we we we deal with what we're dealt, with with constraints. …

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    Circle operates USDC as a fully reserved, regulated stablecoin with $60 trillion total addressable market in non-interest bearing money.

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  • This created defensibility through network effects - tens of thousands of API integrations, regulatory approvals in Singapore, UAE, and EU, and partnerships with BlackRock, Visa, Stripe.
  • Archer purchased Hawthorne Airport for $170 million as LA hub, two miles from LAX and SoFi Stadium, with exclusive rights for 2028 Olympics.
  • This created defensibility through network effects - tens of thousands of API integrations, regulatory approvals in Singapore, UAE, and EU, and partnerships with BlackRock, Visa, Stripe.
  • CircleBy guest
    Circle operates USDC as a fully reserved, regulated stablecoin with $60 trillion total addressable market in non-interest bearing money.
  • This created defensibility through network effects - tens of thousands of API integrations, regulatory approvals in Singapore, UAE, and EU, and partnerships with BlackRock, Visa, Stripe.
  • CrowdStrike detected this by training models on fourteen years of data to identify indicators of attack regardless of malware appearance, focusing on behavioral patterns like data exfiltration methods.

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