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The Reset for Anxiety, Overthinking, and Losing Yourself in the Wrong Story | Diana Winston

60 min episode · 3 min read
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Diana Winston

Episode

60 min

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3 min

Topics

Health & Wellness, Psychology & Behavior, Philosophy & Wisdom

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Key Takeaways

  • Three-Center Check-In: Winston's structured reset practice involves pausing to sequentially scan three internal domains — body sensations, emotional state, and mental activity — without trying to change anything. Practiced mid-day or as a five-to-seven-minute formal meditation, this technique interrupts autopilot mode and restores contact with present-moment reality, making it a portable tool for reducing chronic forward-momentum thinking.
  • Reframing the Return: When noticing the mind has wandered — whether for seconds or hours — the instinct to self-criticize actively undermines practice. Winston recommends replacing self-judgment with a brief acknowledgment phrase like "I'm back" or "great job." This reframe, supported by Harris's own decade-long habit, shifts the return to awareness from a failure event into a reinforcement of the skill itself.
  • Four-Part Emotional Reset: Winston's structured in-the-moment tool for difficult emotions follows four sequential steps: ground physically by feeling feet on the floor, name and locate the emotion in the body, offer self-kindness, then access the "wisdom mind" — the calmer perspective that becomes available once nervous system intensity drops. This sequence moves emotional experience from reactive flooding toward discernment.
  • Judgment-to-Discernment Conversion: Harsh judgments about others contain embedded intelligence worth preserving. Winston's method, developed with colleague Donald Rothberg, involves feeling the physical sensation of self-righteousness, identifying the underlying care or value driving the reaction, then separating that wisdom from the aversive charge. The result shifts from reactive criticism — such as labeling a teenager lazy — toward compassionate, actionable concern.
  • Savoring and Recollection Practice: Transcendent states — feelings of connection, ease, or oneness — are accessible through ordinary experiences like social gatherings or time in nature, not only formal meditation. Winston recommends deliberately pausing during these moments to fully register them, then periodically recollecting them in detail. Repeated practice causes these states to become more frequent and eventually more dominant than habitual anxiety patterns.

What It Covers

Dan Harris and UCLA Mindful director Diana Winston explore four distinct dimensions of awakening — present-moment awareness, healing old patterns, relational judgment work, and self-transcendence — offering concrete meditation tools for breaking recurring cycles of anxiety, overthinking, and emotional reactivity in everyday life.

Key Questions Answered

  • Three-Center Check-In: Winston's structured reset practice involves pausing to sequentially scan three internal domains — body sensations, emotional state, and mental activity — without trying to change anything. Practiced mid-day or as a five-to-seven-minute formal meditation, this technique interrupts autopilot mode and restores contact with present-moment reality, making it a portable tool for reducing chronic forward-momentum thinking.
  • Reframing the Return: When noticing the mind has wandered — whether for seconds or hours — the instinct to self-criticize actively undermines practice. Winston recommends replacing self-judgment with a brief acknowledgment phrase like "I'm back" or "great job." This reframe, supported by Harris's own decade-long habit, shifts the return to awareness from a failure event into a reinforcement of the skill itself.
  • Four-Part Emotional Reset: Winston's structured in-the-moment tool for difficult emotions follows four sequential steps: ground physically by feeling feet on the floor, name and locate the emotion in the body, offer self-kindness, then access the "wisdom mind" — the calmer perspective that becomes available once nervous system intensity drops. This sequence moves emotional experience from reactive flooding toward discernment.
  • Judgment-to-Discernment Conversion: Harsh judgments about others contain embedded intelligence worth preserving. Winston's method, developed with colleague Donald Rothberg, involves feeling the physical sensation of self-righteousness, identifying the underlying care or value driving the reaction, then separating that wisdom from the aversive charge. The result shifts from reactive criticism — such as labeling a teenager lazy — toward compassionate, actionable concern.
  • Savoring and Recollection Practice: Transcendent states — feelings of connection, ease, or oneness — are accessible through ordinary experiences like social gatherings or time in nature, not only formal meditation. Winston recommends deliberately pausing during these moments to fully register them, then periodically recollecting them in detail. Repeated practice causes these states to become more frequent and eventually more dominant than habitual anxiety patterns.
  • Self-Compassion as Functional Foundation: Resistance to self-kindness practices — rooted in fears of going soft or losing motivation — is common even among experienced meditators. Winston notes she avoided loving-kindness practices for ten years. The practical entry point is imagining a kind figure directing warmth toward you, rather than generating it internally. Research from Kristin Neff and Ethan Kross supports that self-directed compassion, including using one's own name in internal dialogue, measurably reduces anxiety and improves goal attainment.

Notable Moment

Winston describes avoiding loving-kindness meditation for a full decade — leaving the room whenever it was offered on retreat — before burnout from nonprofit work made self-compassion unavoidable. The shift came not from philosophical persuasion but from exhaustion, suggesting that resistance to self-kindness often breaks down only under sufficient personal depletion.

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Episode Transcript

Hello, everybody. Welcome to the 10% half year podcast. I'm your host, Dan Harris. Here's something that I find, frustrating and sometimes humiliating. There are certain mistakes that I just make again and again and again. Even though I've got the tools, even though I've done the therapy, I just keep making the same mistakes again. So that's what we're gonna talk about today, why we get stuck in the same old patterns and how to get out of them. My guest today is Diana Winston, director of UCLA Mindful and UCLA Health, also the author of a book called the little book of being. Not for nothing. She spent a year as a Buddhist nun in Burma, which I find endlessly impressive. One other thing to say about Diana before we dive in here, she's leading a meditation challenge over on my app, 10% with Dan Harris. It's called, the reset meditation challenge. It starts next week. It runs from September 21 through the twenty fifth. The goal is to help you reset in lots of ways, to reboot your meditation practice, to help you reset when wake up at three in the morning when you're stuck in a thought spiral, when you're trapped in, judgments of yourself or other people. Lots of ways to reset with Diana Winston. Diana, welcome back to the show. Hi, Dan. Thanks for inviting me back. We're gonna go deep on breaking out of old patterns, but I wanna step all the way back here because when, Marissa Schneiderman, one of our, veteran producers reached out to you to to see what you wanted to talk about, You said you wanted to talk about awakening. Again, we will get to breaking out of old patterns because that is how... Part of how you view awakening. But let me just start there on the word awakening, because, many of us get into meditation or related practices, to relieve stress, sleep a little better. But the goal of the practice as articulated by a guy known as the Buddha was to awaken. In fact, the word Buddha is the... Means awake, though, the awakened one. So what do you mean when you use that word awakening? Yeah. It's a it's a pretty broad term, obviously, and it can be used to mean a lot of different things from awakening to more freedom and peace and understanding, awakening from the ways that we're caught in our old habits and that we can find new ways to act and be in the world, awakening into the here and now, which is a huge part of it, like not being lost in our thoughts and ruminations, but just awakening to the experience of being alive in this moment. And then, of course, as you're sort of pointing to, there are these deeper, more profound understandings in the tradition about awakening that sort of have these more esoteric end of things. But I think it can be, like, really, …

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    Research from Kristin Neff and Ethan Kross supports that self-directed compassion, including using one's own name in internal dialogue, measurably reduces anxiety and improves goal attainment.

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    UCLA Mindful director Diana Winston explore four distinct dimensions of awakening — present-moment awareness, healing old patterns, relational judgment work, and self-transcendence

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