#132 - James Esses - Is Gender Ideology Harming Children?

And I think part of the problem is that it's been now characterized as an identity, as a choice. You know, children have been taught in schools that we've all got this innate gender identity within us, and you can pick whatever you like. And it can change from even hour to hour or minute to minute. Whereas I'm saying, and actually this is classified as a mental health condition. And we don't treat mental health conditions by affirming the delusion that the person believes in. We engage in exploration, and trying to bring a person back to a state of reality because you can't choose your sex. You know, sex is binary and immutable. That's just the end of it. Some people say, well, it's not very kind to say that, that. But actually, as a psychotherapist, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, and affirming people's delusions is not kind at all. Good afternoon, James. Good afternoon. Good to meet you, man. Good to hear you. I don't think we've made a, a show in detail covering the trans topic. We've covered it in in various shows. We've talked about it with various people, but never kind of in detail. What's your lucky day? Well, I've got look. I've got loads of questions. Quite an empathetic individual on certain topics, and it's just not something I I know enough about. And, you know, a lot more than me. So I've got a lot of questions. Where are we right now in with this topic? Because it feels like nature is healing in certain areas with what's happened with the International Olympic Committee and certain things, but I suspect this is a, a topic where there are sinister things that happen in the background that we're not really aware of. Well, quite right. I mean, people thought that when the supreme court, you know, the highest court in the land ruled that sex means biological sex, that was it. Right? That this stuff was gonna disappear and society would go back to a state of equilibrium. And we're many months on now from that, judgment, and nothing could be further from the truth. It's business as usual as far as the trans agenda is going. Right? Children still being indoctrinated in schools, still receiving dangerous cross sex hormones, been put on waiting lists for surgical mutilation. Men are still accessing female toilets. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, it's as bad as it ever was. More people are talking about it now, but the issue still remains the exact same. More people can openly talk about it now as well. Yes. I think I think at least we've crossed into that area where, people can break cover who are public, who are not necessarily gonna get canceled for it now. Not everybody. Well, you say that, and I have to be careful about revealing, confidential material. But I get contacted all the time by people who …