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How I code with AI agents, without being 'technical'

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2 min

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Remote Work, Fundraising & VC, Artificial Intelligence

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Key Takeaways

  • CLI over web interfaces: Use terminal-based tools like Factory's Droid with Opus 4.5 on high autonomy instead of web versions of Claude or Lovable. CLI provides more capability, visibility into agent work, and better control over the coding process for non-technical builders.
  • Agents.md configuration file: Create a dedicated agents.md file in your repos folder with explicit setup instructions, GitHub commit rules, testing requirements, and workflow preferences. This instruction manual follows you across projects, ensuring consistent agent behavior and reducing repetitive configuration work.
  • VPS for persistent projects: Deploy a virtual private server with sync tools to keep local repos continuously updated and accessible from anywhere. This enables coding from mobile devices via Telegram bots or Slack channels, allowing project work during downtime without being at a desk.
  • Fail forward learning method: Build projects beyond your current capability level, then treat every bug or error as a learning opportunity rather than a failure. Clone open source projects, modify them, and ask the AI agent to explain concepts simply instead of following traditional coding tutorials.

What It Covers

Ben Tosel's guide demonstrates how non-technical people can build functional software using AI coding agents through CLI terminals, having spent 3 billion tokens across four months building apps, tools, and features without traditional programming knowledge.

Key Questions Answered

  • CLI over web interfaces: Use terminal-based tools like Factory's Droid with Opus 4.5 on high autonomy instead of web versions of Claude or Lovable. CLI provides more capability, visibility into agent work, and better control over the coding process for non-technical builders.
  • Agents.md configuration file: Create a dedicated agents.md file in your repos folder with explicit setup instructions, GitHub commit rules, testing requirements, and workflow preferences. This instruction manual follows you across projects, ensuring consistent agent behavior and reducing repetitive configuration work.
  • VPS for persistent projects: Deploy a virtual private server with sync tools to keep local repos continuously updated and accessible from anywhere. This enables coding from mobile devices via Telegram bots or Slack channels, allowing project work during downtime without being at a desk.
  • Fail forward learning method: Build projects beyond your current capability level, then treat every bug or error as a learning opportunity rather than a failure. Clone open source projects, modify them, and ask the AI agent to explain concepts simply instead of following traditional coding tutorials.

Notable Moment

Ben discovered he could contribute production improvements to his venture-backed company's actual product despite being non-technical, with the CTO even forking his personal terminal-style website design, validating that AI-assisted coding produces real professional value.

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Episode Transcript

Can you code with AI agents without being technical at all? Today, we're gonna go through if you actually could do that. This is an episode based on an article I read by Ben Tosel. He is just a master of communicating how nontechnical people can use AI, and he wrote this incredible guide that got 3,800,000 views on x. And we're gonna go through it together to basically take all those insights. He talks about what he's actually shipped as a nontechnical person, how he actually works, what his setup is, how he codes on the go, and more. All the insights that he has, we're gonna go through it together. I started reading this, frankly, and I was like, this is so so much sauce that I need to go through it with everyone here together because I think that the people that stayed to the end of this episode are going to have an unfair advantage because he just he explains it so simply. So let's let's get right into it. He starts by saying, I've spent 3,000,000,000 tokens in four months. Every single one of them through a terminal, watching an agent write code I couldn't write myself. You you may class me as a vibe coder, but I think the term overlooks any kind of skill involved in the work itself, much like NoCo did in circa 2019. He actually started a no code company that was started, that was acquired by Zapier. I don't read the code, but I read the agent output religiously. And in doing so, I picked up a ton of knowledge around how code works, how projects works, where things fail, and where they succeed. So this is his guide to learning how to program. So he shipped a bunch of things. He shipped a personal site. He says, I revamped my personal site and made it look like a terminal CLI tool. He built a feed. So he built a social so, simple social tracker for mentions of Factory. That's the company he works at. Factory on Twitter, GitHub issues, post from the subreddit. It's open source. He built Factory Wrap, which was a first version of his wrapped product, showed it to the team, and they loved it, and they wanted to bake into the actual product themselves. So even if you don't wanna actually build a startup, like and you wanna just get promoted at your job, learning how to actually use AI agents is helpful. Custom CLIs. I've created a few CLIs, like Python CLI, which then has been picked up by the team with customer support queries. He created a crypto tracker that predicts positive, negative, or neutral signals and dynamic data. He created droid mist, twelve days, 12 experiments, or games that touch the different themes people are talking about on Twitter, memory, context management, vibe coding, and things of that nature. He created an AI directed video demo system. He gives it a …

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