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It Started with a Blog

24 min episode · 2 min read
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A Blog

Episode

24 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Startups, Marketing, Science & Discovery

AI-Generated Summary

Key Takeaways

  • Authentic content creation: Write from genuine excitement about your work, not to move metrics or juice numbers. Audiences detect instrumentality instantly through micro-signals in your writing. Share ideas when inspiration strikes, not according to content calendars or publishing schedules that drain authenticity from your message.
  • Patience with metrics: Early audience building means starting with zero followers and resisting the urge to check analytics. 37signals built their blog for years without tracking counts, instead noticing regular commenters like Don Schenck. This prevented discouragement and audience capture where algorithms program you to chase engagement over substance.
  • Founder-led transparency: Share proprietary information others consider private, like the $27,000 quarterly royalty check from their Rework book. Founders can post interesting data within seconds without approval processes. Doing this 200 times yearly builds reputation as someone who shares valuable insider information unavailable elsewhere.
  • Long-form over social media: Email newsletters and blog posts create deeper human connections than social platforms. Seven thoughtful email replies from regular readers provide more value than thousands of shallow social media interactions. The instant feedback loop on platforms like X corrupts authenticity by training you to optimize for algorithmic engagement.

What It Covers

37signals cofounders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson explain how their Signal versus Noise blog started in 1999 as casual link-sharing between colleagues, grew organically over two decades without marketing strategy, and became their primary customer acquisition channel.

Key Questions Answered

  • Authentic content creation: Write from genuine excitement about your work, not to move metrics or juice numbers. Audiences detect instrumentality instantly through micro-signals in your writing. Share ideas when inspiration strikes, not according to content calendars or publishing schedules that drain authenticity from your message.
  • Patience with metrics: Early audience building means starting with zero followers and resisting the urge to check analytics. 37signals built their blog for years without tracking counts, instead noticing regular commenters like Don Schenck. This prevented discouragement and audience capture where algorithms program you to chase engagement over substance.
  • Founder-led transparency: Share proprietary information others consider private, like the $27,000 quarterly royalty check from their Rework book. Founders can post interesting data within seconds without approval processes. Doing this 200 times yearly builds reputation as someone who shares valuable insider information unavailable elsewhere.
  • Long-form over social media: Email newsletters and blog posts create deeper human connections than social platforms. Seven thoughtful email replies from regular readers provide more value than thousands of shallow social media interactions. The instant feedback loop on platforms like X corrupts authenticity by training you to optimize for algorithmic engagement.

Notable Moment

David Heinemeier Hansson describes starting his HeyWorld newsletter from zero subscribers four years ago, making the mistake of checking follower counts early on, then deliberately hiding metrics from the writing interface after realizing numbers always disappoint initially, eventually reaching substantial readership after nearly 500 essays.

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Episode Transcript

Welcome to Rework, a podcast by thirty seven Signals about the better way to work and run your business. I'm Kimberly Rhodes, joined as always by the cofounders of thirty seven Signals, Jason Priede and David Heinemeier Hanssen. This week, I thought we would address a question that we get quite often, people writing in, sending in videos, asking how they can promote their product. They know that the thirty seven signals story started with a blog, but they're curious what they should be doing. So let's first before we kind of dive into some of this advice, Jason, take us back to the early beginnings of the signal versus noise blog. I assume that was just something you created because you wanted to communicate, not necessarily as, like, a marketing tool. Yeah. It was actually funny. We were sitting in our second office in Chicago. Few of us is me, Ernest, and, I think Matt or something like that. And we've been, like, sharing links to things back and forth and, like, thoughts. Like, I think we're using AOL instead of Messenger or what what or the hell was going on back then? Skype or something? I don't know what it was. And we're just like, we should just, like, put this down somewhere because it'd be easier to, like, publish it or something like that. And we're like, you know, we're sharing these things. There's probably other people who are interested in seeing these things or talking about the same things that we're talking about. We're just three guys We're doing this thing and like this stuff. And so we just kinda put together a very basic blog, which is a really early days, which is just, you know, a way to publish stuff. We used Gray Matter, I think, was the first tool we used by this guy named Noah Gray, I think was his name, who made this great blogging thing. Put that together and just, like, put it out there. Like, the idea was, like, maybe other people might wanna hear this music we're playing, you know, basically, somewhere in the world maybe. And it wasn't like, we're gonna do this so we can do this, and this is gonna be this, and this is gonna be this, and it's gonna lead to this, and we can do that. We're just sharing stuff, you know, that we're sharing already. So we're kinda documenting what we're already doing. And it just sort of grew from there. We just started sharing as often as we could. As often as we had an idea internally, we just put it externally. And And that's how it grew. And that's how all the early blogs kinda grew. The links and ideas and thoughts and whatever. Again, no anticipation of what this could turn into or what it's for. It was for nothing other than just sharing stuff we thought was interesting. And eventually, you build up a small audience, you …

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    David Heinemeier Hansson describes starting his HeyWorld newsletter from zero subscribers four years ago, making the mistake of checking follower counts early on, then deliberately hiding metrics from the writing interface after realizing numbers always disappoint initially, eventually reaching substantial readership after nearly 500 essays.

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