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You Can’t Win With Money When Your Relationships Are Messy

138 min episode · 2 min read

Episode

138 min

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2 min

Topics

Health & Wellness, Personal Finance, Relationships

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Key Takeaways

  • Business viability threshold: Miguel's printing business generates only $1,500 monthly after expenses while working 50-60 hours weekly. When a business produces below minimum wage equivalent, treat it as a side hustle and secure full-time employment elsewhere. Consider the six-month test: give new ventures half a year to show momentum before liquidating equipment.
  • Car lease mathematics: Leasing costs more than traditional loans when interest is calculated properly. A $19,000 buyout on $40,000 annual income represents half the yearly earnings going toward a depreciating asset. The alternative: become a one-car household temporarily, save aggressively, then purchase with cash to avoid perpetual $525 monthly payments that prevent wealth building.
  • Medical debt decision framework: For non-emergency health treatments costing $10,000-$30,000, pause debt repayment temporarily and save dedicated funds over 10 months rather than taking high-interest personal loans. When possible, have one spouse undergo experimental treatment first to validate effectiveness before the second spouse invests, reducing total financial exposure by potential 50%.
  • Divorce asset protection: When entering second marriages with $12 million versus $50,000 asset disparity, structure prenuptial agreements to protect pre-marital wealth while sharing all post-marriage income and growth. Purchase joint property with combined funds to demonstrate partnership. Progressive prenups can include time-based provisions where restrictions decrease after specific marriage duration milestones.
  • Retirement income crisis: A 72-year-old receiving $1,100-$1,300 monthly Social Security cannot sustain a $1,450 mortgage payment on a $1.1 million home with $100,000 remaining balance. The solution: sell, invest $500,000-$700,000 of proceeds, purchase a $400,000 modest property outright, and work part-time for 3-5 years to avoid depleting invested assets prematurely.

What It Covers

Rachel Cruze and Jade Warshaw address caller financial crises spanning business failures, medical debt, divorce settlements, and car lease traps. Callers face decisions about selling businesses, taking loans for experimental treatments, managing upside-down vehicles, and navigating prenuptial agreements with significant wealth disparities.

Key Questions Answered

  • Business viability threshold: Miguel's printing business generates only $1,500 monthly after expenses while working 50-60 hours weekly. When a business produces below minimum wage equivalent, treat it as a side hustle and secure full-time employment elsewhere. Consider the six-month test: give new ventures half a year to show momentum before liquidating equipment.
  • Car lease mathematics: Leasing costs more than traditional loans when interest is calculated properly. A $19,000 buyout on $40,000 annual income represents half the yearly earnings going toward a depreciating asset. The alternative: become a one-car household temporarily, save aggressively, then purchase with cash to avoid perpetual $525 monthly payments that prevent wealth building.
  • Medical debt decision framework: For non-emergency health treatments costing $10,000-$30,000, pause debt repayment temporarily and save dedicated funds over 10 months rather than taking high-interest personal loans. When possible, have one spouse undergo experimental treatment first to validate effectiveness before the second spouse invests, reducing total financial exposure by potential 50%.
  • Divorce asset protection: When entering second marriages with $12 million versus $50,000 asset disparity, structure prenuptial agreements to protect pre-marital wealth while sharing all post-marriage income and growth. Purchase joint property with combined funds to demonstrate partnership. Progressive prenups can include time-based provisions where restrictions decrease after specific marriage duration milestones.
  • Retirement income crisis: A 72-year-old receiving $1,100-$1,300 monthly Social Security cannot sustain a $1,450 mortgage payment on a $1.1 million home with $100,000 remaining balance. The solution: sell, invest $500,000-$700,000 of proceeds, purchase a $400,000 modest property outright, and work part-time for 3-5 years to avoid depleting invested assets prematurely.

Notable Moment

A 19-year-old mother calls seeking direction after divorcing a controlling husband 14 years her senior. She has no debt, money saved, but no career path after going straight from high school into marriage and motherhood. The hosts emphasize she has tremendous time and grace at her age despite the difficult circumstances she's navigated.

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Episode Transcript

This episode is filled with some of our best calls and advice, but unless you take what you hear and put it to work in your own life, you'll be stuck with the same money stress in 2026. So make a change and download EveryDollar today. Normal is broke and common sense is weird, so we're here to help you transform your life. From the Ramsey Network in the Fairwinds Credit Union Studio, this is the Ramsey Show. And I'm Rachel Cruze hosting this hour with Jade Warshaw. And we're answering your questions, so give us a call at (888) 825-5225. And we'll be talking about your life, your money, career, relationships, anything and everything. We are here for you. So let's start off in Boston with Miguel. Hi. Welcome to the show. Hey. How's it going? We're doing well. How can we help today? So today, I wanted to ask, so I have a business, and I'm, I'm kinda debating on what I should do next because I'm I'm also a 147,000 in debt, and that's included in credit cards, student loans, and a car payment. Okay. So I wanna know if I should sell a business, for what I think I'd give value for, and then start fresh and then use that lump sum of money to attack, like, the debt. What kind of business are you in? It's a, printing business, so merchandise. What would cause you for, what would cause you to sell the business versus using profit from the business to pay down the debt? I think it's just because I collect a lump sum of money and, like, business right now is kind of, you know, fluctuating. It's up and down. And I'm also alone in it, so it's a lot of my time where I feel like I if I could change the If you didn't have debt, Miguel, would you stay in this business, or would you still want out? Yeah. You would stay in there? I'll potentially stay in the bus. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because I look at this as I mean, it because, I mean, I well, how much would you sell it for? How much could you get out of it minus all of your liabilities and everything? About $30. How much are you making off of it every year? How much are you bringing home? So this is actually, like, my first year in it. So I'd I'd know at at the end of the year, but roughly after everything, about $1,500 a month. 1,500 a month. And this is this what you do full time, or is this kind of like a side business? It's full time. Well, I don't know that I would sell it, but I would not have this being my full time job right now because of what it's generating. It feels like it's guys how are you guys living? Is your wife work? No. I'm single. You're single. How are you living …

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