PEL Presents PvI#109: Choose Your Own Failure w/ Rich Baker

This is philosophy versus improv where two sages try to teach each other a thing or two, and maybe you, the audience, get something out of it as well. This is Mark Linsenmeyer bringing the philosophy to you today. And this is Mary Hynes bringing the improvisation, and we are joined today by Hey. This is Rich Baker. Nice to be here. Thanks for having me. Has Mary explained to you anything about the show? Do you know what the format is? Well, I listened to your episode with Vicky. Seems like I'll talk and then improvise and then talk and then improvise. That's the way it works. And we post talk then decide why the thing that we are talking about and the thing that we improvise into are really saying exactly the same thing and to completely support each other and and are a coherent educational entertainment project. Like, for example, I just watched the movie Weapons. I knew it was gonna be amazing, but I was waiting to have be at a client's home that had a really nice flat screen and a really nice sound system. And so I had that with my last client. And the layers of storytelling and weapons, oh my gosh. If you haven't seen it, you need to. And I'm not gonna say anything else. No spoilers. But that's Kind of like how we do philosophy versus improv. It's layers of storytelling without creepy children or sometimes with creepy children. Yeah. Are you right? Shut up, Pines. Shut your mouth. And what's your dealio in the improv scene? Rich, tell us about yourself a little bit. Dealio. Back to 1994. Good times. I run a improv school called Dare to Fail Improv. It's an online school. I've been teaching and coaching improv, I don't know, over twenty years, and I started improvising in 1999. And I kind of figured out a way to make a, little career out of it, even a a space where it's not all that easy to kind of find paying gigs. Failure so in most people's presentations in philosophy, they don't wanna fail Mhmm. Because they wanna they wanna show that they understand. They wanna give accurate information. The, philosophy that I've generally had on my podcast, I read it. I made something out of it. I'm gonna try to articulate it. But it's probably not gonna be what your professor who has read all the secondary literature and actually knows in detail about this. They've specialized. I have not specialized. I'm, you know, like the kindergarten teacher. I'm like, I'm I'm just a little I I guess the kindergarten teacher is not only one night ahead of his students. I guess it's more the the the high school Spanish substitute teacher who's just like, I'll just learn the lesson night before and teach it to you. But I find that articulating things wrongly, well, you get feedback, you figure out, you improve. It's not that …