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Dan Rasmussen & D.A. Wallach on Biotech’s Surge, China, IPOs, US Valuations & Japan | #617

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Dan Rasmussen,D.a. Wallach

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74 min

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Key Takeaways

  • Biotech Value Metric: Traditional valuation factors fail in unprofitable biotech. Redefine value as market cap divided by research spending (not enterprise value, which penalizes cash reserves). A company spending $200 million on research with $200 million market cap is cheaper than one spending $5 million with the same valuation. This metric creates clear linear relationships with returns when combined with other factors.
  • Specialist Ownership Quality Signal: Define quality by measuring what percentage of holders are biotech specialists—funds owning over $100 million in biotech representing 50%+ of their portfolio. This typically identifies 15-20 firms at any time. High specialist ownership indicates rigorous scientific diligence, while zero specialist ownership flags potential frauds or low-quality science that couldn't convince informed investors to participate.
  • Peer Momentum Strategy: Direct momentum fails in biotech. Instead, map clinical trials from clinicaltrials.gov to equity data, classify research using the mesh tree taxonomy, create similarity scores between companies, then calculate momentum of similar firms. Oncology drug performance predicts other oncology stocks better than individual stock momentum, capturing sector-specific acquisition interest and scientific validation waves.
  • China Clinical Trial Cost Advantage: China now captures 30-40% of Big Pharma molecule acquisitions versus single digits five years ago. Early stage clinical trials cost significantly less in China with faster execution. US and European companies increasingly conduct first-in-human trials in China despite discovering molecules domestically. This represents a structural shift similar to China's rare earth strategy—dominating marginal value chain segments to eventually control entire industries.
  • Japan Corporate Governance Opportunity: Median Japanese company holds seven years of net income in balance sheet assets versus one year for US companies. Small cap value names often hold twenty years of net income in assets. With corporate governance reforms driving distributions and payout ratios at half US levels, Japan has substantial runway. Combined with returning inflation and nominal GDP growth, this creates multi-year tailwinds.

What It Covers

Dan Rasmussen and D.A. Wallach return to discuss biotech's 50% surge since their last appearance, Rasmussen's year-long research paper on valuing unprofitable biotech companies, China's emergence as a biotech powerhouse capturing 30-40% of Big Pharma acquisitions, Japan's corporate governance transformation, and whether US equity valuations reflect a permanent regime change or cyclical peak.

Key Questions Answered

  • Biotech Value Metric: Traditional valuation factors fail in unprofitable biotech. Redefine value as market cap divided by research spending (not enterprise value, which penalizes cash reserves). A company spending $200 million on research with $200 million market cap is cheaper than one spending $5 million with the same valuation. This metric creates clear linear relationships with returns when combined with other factors.
  • Specialist Ownership Quality Signal: Define quality by measuring what percentage of holders are biotech specialists—funds owning over $100 million in biotech representing 50%+ of their portfolio. This typically identifies 15-20 firms at any time. High specialist ownership indicates rigorous scientific diligence, while zero specialist ownership flags potential frauds or low-quality science that couldn't convince informed investors to participate.
  • Peer Momentum Strategy: Direct momentum fails in biotech. Instead, map clinical trials from clinicaltrials.gov to equity data, classify research using the mesh tree taxonomy, create similarity scores between companies, then calculate momentum of similar firms. Oncology drug performance predicts other oncology stocks better than individual stock momentum, capturing sector-specific acquisition interest and scientific validation waves.
  • China Clinical Trial Cost Advantage: China now captures 30-40% of Big Pharma molecule acquisitions versus single digits five years ago. Early stage clinical trials cost significantly less in China with faster execution. US and European companies increasingly conduct first-in-human trials in China despite discovering molecules domestically. This represents a structural shift similar to China's rare earth strategy—dominating marginal value chain segments to eventually control entire industries.
  • Japan Corporate Governance Opportunity: Median Japanese company holds seven years of net income in balance sheet assets versus one year for US companies. Small cap value names often hold twenty years of net income in assets. With corporate governance reforms driving distributions and payout ratios at half US levels, Japan has substantial runway. Combined with returning inflation and nominal GDP growth, this creates multi-year tailwinds.
  • Deficit-Driven Profit Expansion: US corporate profits increased from 11 cents per dollar to 18 cents (14 cents inflation-adjusted) since COVID. Government deficits fund entitlements to high-propensity spenders who buy corporate products. Corporations invest less in capacity, distribute profits to wealthy shareholders with low spending propensity who recycle capital into equities. This creates alignment between poorest Americans needing entitlements and richest needing equity appreciation—both achieved through deficit expansion.

Notable Moment

Rasmussen reveals that 70% of unprofitable biotech stocks lose money, with half of those acquired at negative returns, 10% delisted, and 40% existing as zombie companies. Yet the sector generates the highest dispersion and lowest correlation of any market sector, making it simultaneously the worst-performing category and richest source of lottery-ticket outcomes when factor models are properly calibrated.

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Episode Transcript

Welcome to the Meb Faber show, where the focus is on helping you grow and preserve your wealth. Join us as we discuss the craft of investing and uncover new and profitable ideas, all to help you grow wealthier and wiser. Better investing starts here. Matt Faber is the cofounder and chief investment officer at Cambria Investment Management. Due to industry regulations, he will not discuss any of Cambria's funds on this podcast. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not the opinion of Cambria Investment Management or its affiliates. For more information, visit cambriainvestments.com. If you've been hearing more about three fifty one exchanges and still have questions, you're not alone. Eligibility rules, asset requirements, timelines, and tax loss treatment all matter, and understanding them upfront is critical. Alpha Architect has operated over fifty three fifty one exchange launches, and they've seen firsthand where advisors need clarity most. That experience informs the education first approach, including their three fifty one education center with short videos, visuals, and on demand resources. On February 3, they're hosting a live educational webinar to walk through common FAQs, real world use cases, and lessons learned from prior three fifty one exchanges, plus a look at upcoming fund launches designed to address complex portfolios. Register using the link in the show notes. Welcome back, everybody. Happy 2026. Our episode with these two guys was so popular last summer. They got invited back. I don't know how this quick, but we're gonna do another fun radio show today. DA Wallach, Dan Rasmussen. Welcome back to the show. Thanks, man. You guys came on, and you marked a kinda inflection point. We spent about half the time last time talking about the opportunity and also the decimation in biotech, and then the other half half the time, I feel like dunking on private equity. But since that time last summer, July 4, I think biotech stocks are up 50%. So kudos to you too. Well done. That was a great inflection point. But here we are now, and Dan wrote a paper. DA's got a company going public. Everything's roses, but I I feel like we should start out with biotech. You guys got any thoughts before we hit Dan's paper? No. I think Dan should take us through. It's a great paper and, you know, brings a nice sort of outsider's perspective to the sector. I don't want you to say that. I want you to kinda, you know, poke holes in it. You're missing, man, that I sent, like, at every juncture of the way. I called DA or sent him this stuff. So he's he's already given me all this critical feedback and ideas, but, hopefully, he has some more reactions too. And now it's perfect. Awesome. Well, look. This is a pretty involved project. How long does this take you, man? And and then kinda we'll just walk through the whole thing, but this this didn't …

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