#2569 - Bill Thompson
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173 min
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3 min
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Startups, Software Development, Psychology & Behavior
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Key Takeaways
- ✓Closed-Loop Shooting Framework: To eliminate target panic in archery, adopt what instructor Joel Turner calls closed-loop thinking — narrating every phase of the shot internally so the mind stays present rather than anticipating recoil or release. Thompson uses the military acronym STAB (Steady position, Trigger squeeze, Aiming, Breathing), silently cycling through it at full draw. This keeps the shot interruptible at any moment, preventing the runaway flinch response that costs accuracy at critical moments.
- ✓Pressure Inoculation as Skill: Performing well under pressure is not a personality trait — it is a trainable capacity built through accumulated high-stakes repetitions. Thompson argues that people who have never faced genuine pressure will panic when confronted with it, whether facing a bull elk at 40 yards or a courtroom. Deliberately seeking difficult experiences — jiu-jitsu, hunting, military training, demanding academic work — compresses the timeline to composure when real stakes arrive.
- ✓Counter-Intuitive Performance Driving: Military rally-trained instructors teach that fast driving requires the opposite of what movies depict. Never oversteer; if one hand crosses over the other on the wheel, technique has already failed. Feed the wheel hand-to-hand. Apply brakes through corners to front-load weight on interceptor-style vehicles. Keep tires in maximum road contact at all times. Draw the straightest possible line through any course. Drifting actively slows lap times by breaking traction.
- ✓Thermal Mapping for Hunters: Thermals shift direction based on temperature: cold mornings pull air downhill, warming afternoons push it uphill. Experienced elk and whitetail bucks use these thermal channels to scent-check entire mountainsides before moving. Spartan Forge is releasing a feature that maps thermals using high-resolution topographic data, canopy cover variables, historical wind speed, and sun incidence by slope aspect — allowing hunters to digitally scout scent-flow patterns before entering the field.
- ✓Fasted Hunting Protocol: Thompson and a group of five to six hunters run multi-day fasted hunts where food is locked in a Yeti cooler with a code held by one of their wives. The code is released only after photographic proof of a kill is sent. The group hunts on salt water alone, with the shortest fast lasting 36 hours and the longest reaching four days. The protocol deliberately recreates ancestral survival circuitry, producing a communal reward response Thompson describes as unlike anything else.
What It Covers
Joe Rogan and guest Bill Thompson — a military veteran and tech founder behind hunting app Spartan Forge — cover Tesla Roadster flight claims, elite driving techniques from military evasion training, archery psychology, pressure-forged resilience, fasted hunting rituals, Jungian dream analysis applied to real legal battles, and the evolutionary wiring behind hunting, fishing, and tribal behavior across a 173-minute conversation.
Key Questions Answered
- •Closed-Loop Shooting Framework: To eliminate target panic in archery, adopt what instructor Joel Turner calls closed-loop thinking — narrating every phase of the shot internally so the mind stays present rather than anticipating recoil or release. Thompson uses the military acronym STAB (Steady position, Trigger squeeze, Aiming, Breathing), silently cycling through it at full draw. This keeps the shot interruptible at any moment, preventing the runaway flinch response that costs accuracy at critical moments.
- •Pressure Inoculation as Skill: Performing well under pressure is not a personality trait — it is a trainable capacity built through accumulated high-stakes repetitions. Thompson argues that people who have never faced genuine pressure will panic when confronted with it, whether facing a bull elk at 40 yards or a courtroom. Deliberately seeking difficult experiences — jiu-jitsu, hunting, military training, demanding academic work — compresses the timeline to composure when real stakes arrive.
- •Counter-Intuitive Performance Driving: Military rally-trained instructors teach that fast driving requires the opposite of what movies depict. Never oversteer; if one hand crosses over the other on the wheel, technique has already failed. Feed the wheel hand-to-hand. Apply brakes through corners to front-load weight on interceptor-style vehicles. Keep tires in maximum road contact at all times. Draw the straightest possible line through any course. Drifting actively slows lap times by breaking traction.
- •Thermal Mapping for Hunters: Thermals shift direction based on temperature: cold mornings pull air downhill, warming afternoons push it uphill. Experienced elk and whitetail bucks use these thermal channels to scent-check entire mountainsides before moving. Spartan Forge is releasing a feature that maps thermals using high-resolution topographic data, canopy cover variables, historical wind speed, and sun incidence by slope aspect — allowing hunters to digitally scout scent-flow patterns before entering the field.
- •Fasted Hunting Protocol: Thompson and a group of five to six hunters run multi-day fasted hunts where food is locked in a Yeti cooler with a code held by one of their wives. The code is released only after photographic proof of a kill is sent. The group hunts on salt water alone, with the shortest fast lasting 36 hours and the longest reaching four days. The protocol deliberately recreates ancestral survival circuitry, producing a communal reward response Thompson describes as unlike anything else.
- •Serenity Prayer as Operational Framework: Thompson credits his mother's Alcoholics Anonymous meetings, attended from age nine, with installing a functional anxiety filter: only expend cognitive energy on variables within your control. In Iraq, Afghanistan, the Philippines, and Africa, when situations deteriorated, he defaulted to identifying the two or three actionable levers available and executing them. He now teaches the same framework to his teenage daughter. The practical application is to categorize every stressor as controllable or uncontrollable before allocating attention.
- •Jungian Dream Analysis as Diagnostic Tool: Thompson documents dreams upon waking, then reviews them the following day as diagnostic feedback on his psychological state. A recent dream set on a train — where he fought an older version of himself named Bill, broke both the figure's arms in submission holds, and was guided by an anima character — mapped directly onto an ongoing legal battle. Jung's framework treats recurring dream imagery as the unconscious correcting conscious blind spots, with the anima figure representing relational intelligence the dreamer needs to integrate.
Notable Moment
Thompson recounts a moment during a multi-day military evasion exercise in the Appalachian Mountains where, severely sleep-deprived and unfed for days, he encountered a group of hikers at a campfire — only to wake hours later and find zero footprints in the surrounding dirt. A debrief doctor confirmed he had likely hallucinated the entire encounter, a documented phenomenon among candidates under sustained evasion stress.
Episode Transcript
Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan experience. Train my day. Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. Put the microphone in front of your face so we could use this. Alright. What are you saying? Some people think the stuff about the Roadster online was like, you know, it's not real. It's a 100% real. My friend was there. No. Not... I... So I'm even like... Words are tough to you have to use your words very carefully. You know? Well, here's the thing. Will it be available in the general public? Right. Probably not. No. How could you use it? How could you make that legal where you have a car that can fly over other cars if there's a traffic stop? Like, I'm trying to... I guess what some people are saying, it's like, you know, the... A model... A test model car. Like, it... This will not... This is the version where... Your concept car. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there... First of all, it probably won't be released anywhere near when they say it's gonna be released just based on what he's done in the past. I mean, the Roadster, there's a lot of people that paid $250,000 for the Roadster in 2017. Yep. I know guy who did that. Yeah. Yeah. I know a guy who did that too. And, like, imagine Yeah. You did that back then, and you were expecting that car. You got a completely different design. Yep. No. I mean, completely different looking car. Now it has the fucking Lamborghini doors. Yep. And it flies. What? This guy's nuts. I would. He's It's insane. So out of his mind. He's got too much money. He just does whatever the fuck he wants. I'm not with people saying it's fake with wires and stuff. Some people said that there was wires on cranes, and, yeah, I don't... I... I'm not buying that. No. Well, there is already a car that does that trick where it can go upside down. There's this Really? There's this race car. God. I forget the name of it, but it actually has a fan underneath the bottom of the car that acts as a suction. And this car does insane lap times because it's absolutely glued to the ground. Perfect handling. Yeah. Perfect handling. And it's only a one seater car. Mcmur... Mercury, Spurrow. Yeah. I'm gonna try to find a video. Put some headphones on. Shit. Watch this thing. Put it... See if you can find... It's it's a hype... Yeah. See, that's it. It goes upside down. This thing is literally crazy. It it blows away all of the lap times on every single racetrack because, first of all, it's really light, really tiny, has insane power because it's all electric, and it has so much suction at the bottom that it can go upside down. So they were the first ones to at least demo this type of tech, and they did it …
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