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The Indicator

Fighting AI with AI

October 6, 2025

9 min episode · 2 min read

Mark Kwapiszewski,Ben Coleman

Episode

9 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Artificial Intelligence, Software Development

AI-Generated Summary

Published Dec 7, 2025

What It Covers

AI voice cloning enables sophisticated phone scams targeting banks and consumers, prompting financial institutions to deploy AI detection software and multilayered authentication systems.

Notable Moment

Ben Coleman's company deepfaked senators Blumenthal and Hawley during congressional testimony to demonstrate the urgent need for automated deepfake detection across all platforms.

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company

Reality Defender
“Reality Defender and similar companies use harmonic structure analysis to identify AI-generated voices that bypass traditional voice authentication systems used by major banks for customer verification and wire transfers.”