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Can Y’all Street outflank Wall Street?

8 min episode · 2 min read
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Maria Aspen,Asim Khalil,Eric Johnson

Episode

8 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Investing, Fundraising & VC, Economics & Policy

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Key Takeaways

  • Corporate migration driver: Texas now hosts more Fortune 500 companies than any other state, surpassing California and New York, with major relocations including Tesla, Charles Schwab, and McKesson — giving banks a direct incentive to follow their largest clients southward.
  • Regulatory arbitrage: Texas has enacted laws making it harder for shareholders to sue companies, positioning itself as a lower-tax, lighter-regulation alternative to Delaware, California, and New York — a concrete legal advantage businesses can evaluate when choosing where to incorporate or expand.
  • Financial incentives structure: Dallas offered Goldman Sachs approximately $18 million in economic incentives to build its new campus, a replicable model cities use to attract financial firms — businesses considering relocation should actively negotiate municipal incentive packages as part of site selection.
  • Texas Stock Exchange reality check: The newly launched Texas Stock Exchange, backed by Goldman Sachs and others, targets NYSE and Nasdaq but faces a structural ceiling — no major U.S. stock exchange competitor has broken through since Nasdaq launched over 50 years ago.

What It Covers

Goldman Sachs is spending $500 million on a 14-story Dallas campus by 2028, joining JPMorgan, Bank of America, Morgan Stanley, and Scotiabank in a Texas financial hub locals call "Y'all Street," challenging New York's dominance.

Key Questions Answered

  • Corporate migration driver: Texas now hosts more Fortune 500 companies than any other state, surpassing California and New York, with major relocations including Tesla, Charles Schwab, and McKesson — giving banks a direct incentive to follow their largest clients southward.
  • Regulatory arbitrage: Texas has enacted laws making it harder for shareholders to sue companies, positioning itself as a lower-tax, lighter-regulation alternative to Delaware, California, and New York — a concrete legal advantage businesses can evaluate when choosing where to incorporate or expand.
  • Financial incentives structure: Dallas offered Goldman Sachs approximately $18 million in economic incentives to build its new campus, a replicable model cities use to attract financial firms — businesses considering relocation should actively negotiate municipal incentive packages as part of site selection.
  • Texas Stock Exchange reality check: The newly launched Texas Stock Exchange, backed by Goldman Sachs and others, targets NYSE and Nasdaq but faces a structural ceiling — no major U.S. stock exchange competitor has broken through since Nasdaq launched over 50 years ago.

Notable Moment

Despite all the Y'all Street momentum, JPMorgan Chase simultaneously opened a $3 billion headquarters in Manhattan — suggesting major banks are expanding in Texas without treating it as a replacement for New York.

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Episode Transcript

NPR. A few months ago, I found myself in the middle of a construction site in Dallas. It was full of dust and wind and workers in hard hats going up and down in freight elevators. This is the new Dallas office for Goldman Sachs, or it will be in 2028 when it's fully built and has thousands of employees working there. Goldman is spending more than $500,000,000 to build this 14 story campus right in the heart of Dallas. And Goldman is in good company. The New York Investment Bank is one of several financial companies that are all setting up shop or expanding in the Dallas area. This is what Texas is calling Y'all Street. Get it? Like Wall Street, but with a Texas twang? Clever. And since everything's bigger in Texas, some of the people behind Y'all Street are hoping that it can become even more powerful than the OG Wall Street. This financial rivalry is mostly about business growth and economic activity, but it's also a little about politics. I mean, what isn't these days? Tell me about it. This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Waelin Wong. And back with me is friend of the show, Maria Aspen. Maria, great to see you again. Thank you. It's so great to be back. You recently spent some time in Texas talking to a bunch of Y'all Street executives and other locals. I did. And that's today on the show. What exactly is happening on Wall Street? And can Texas really steal Wall Street's financial crown? This message comes from NPR sponsor Charles Schwab with its original podcast on investing. Each week, you'll get thoughtful, in-depth analysis of both the stock and the bond markets. Listen today and subscribe at Schwab dot com slash on investing or wherever you get your podcasts. Support for this podcast and the following message come from Vanguard. Every day, shareholders meet to discuss important matters about the companies you invest in. Now you can make your voice heard too. Vanguard investor choice makes it easy to set your proxy voting preference for your eligible Vanguard index funds. Visit vanguard.com/investorchoice to learn more. Vanguard investors own shares of their index funds, and those funds own shares of the companies they invest in. Vanguard Marketing Corporation distributor. One year after congress eliminated federal funding for public media, NPR remains committed to informing the public. But a free press doesn't just happen, it's something we must protect. Without federal funding, we're relying on your support now. Please show your support today at +.npr.org. A few days after I visited Goldman's next Dallas home, I caught up with the man in charge. Asim Khalil is a Goldman Sachs partner and head of its Dallas office. He's also a lifelong New Yorker who moved to Texas for Goldman ten years ago. Now he's all in. This is the most welcoming city you'll find anywhere in the country, if not the world. People are happy to …

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