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Investor Stories 413: Visionary Founders (Schilling, Abel, Patel)

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5 min

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Health & Wellness, Investing, Startups

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Key Takeaways

  • Geographic contrarian thinking: Ngo founder rejected Silicon Valley pressure, built world-class engineering team in Midwest proving talent exists outside traditional tech hubs, challenging VC orthodoxy about location requirements.
  • Product vision patience: Sonos founder maintained extreme product obsession through extended market development cycle, demonstrating that conviction and patience can overcome slow initial adoption in creating new categories.
  • Founder mode longevity: Marc Benioff exemplifies sustained founder engagement after twenty-five years, actively driving AI transformation at Salesforce while maintaining cultural values through Ohana philosophy and one percent giving model.

What It Covers

Three venture capitalists share stories of visionary founders who defied conventional wisdom, from building global companies in unexpected locations to demonstrating extraordinary product obsession and perseverance.

Key Questions Answered

  • Geographic contrarian thinking: Ngo founder rejected Silicon Valley pressure, built world-class engineering team in Midwest proving talent exists outside traditional tech hubs, challenging VC orthodoxy about location requirements.
  • Product vision patience: Sonos founder maintained extreme product obsession through extended market development cycle, demonstrating that conviction and patience can overcome slow initial adoption in creating new categories.
  • Founder mode longevity: Marc Benioff exemplifies sustained founder engagement after twenty-five years, actively driving AI transformation at Salesforce while maintaining cultural values through Ohana philosophy and one percent giving model.

Notable Moment

A founder who grew up in a Brazilian favela built Pismo into global banking infrastructure, selling to Visa for one billion dollars cash after seven years of development.

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This episode of TFR is brought to you by Ramp, the spend management platform we use here at TFR. They're offering listeners a $150 just to take a demo. We've never had an offer quite like this. Claim your $150 before this offer is gone at our partner link, ramp.com/partner/tfr. And this episode of TFR is brought to you by the American Arbitration Association, where smart startups and investors turn to for fast, efficient, and cost effective dispute resolution. Visit adr.org/tfr to learn more. Welcome to the podcast about venture capital, where investors and founders alike can learn how VCs make decisions and reach conviction. Your host is Nick Moran, and this is the full ratchet. Welcome Welcome back to TFR. On today's special segment, we ask guests to discuss the most visionary founder that they've worked with and what makes them so special. Here's the segment called visionary founders. On today's special segment, we have Matthias Schilling of Headline. Matthias, can you tell us a story about a founder who pulled off something so amazing that it shocked you? What did they do, and how does that make you think and assess new founders that you're investing in? Yeah. I mean, you know, it's it's interesting. I mean, shocking is a big word. Right? I mean, it's like I mean, all my founders have shocked me in some ways. I mean, I think I look for the and they go, you know, I mean, a segment, I mean, it's the largest customer database in the world that's been built by very young guys that had purely technic background. I think that was an incredible endeavor, they pivoted multiple times. Sonos, the founder, had a product obsession that was just incredible, and it took us, I mean, a very long time, because we had, took us a long, very long time to beat that market and I really respect his patience and determination and conviction. You know, the founder of Ngo sadly, you know, passed away recently from ALS, I mean, he had this incredible wisdom and built an organization in the Midwest, and he was very proud of it. And all the venture capitalists said, you have to move to Silicon Valley. We all know that you can't hire smart people enough in the Midwest. And he said, yeah, fuck you, sorry. We did it, you know, we hired an amazing team, built an incredible culture, it was a wonderful experience to go through that wisdom. I have stories of founders in Brazil, you know, that come out of, know, they grew up in a favela, which is kind of, you know, very, very poor, you know, one of the founders of Pismo and then built, you know, a leading global banking infrastructure and we sold it for a billion dollar in cash to Visa last year after six, seven years and what that does, you know, what that does to a person and this story of you know, …

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  • Ngo founder rejected Silicon Valley pressure, built world-class engineering team in Midwest proving talent exists outside traditional tech hubs
  • Sonos founder maintained extreme product obsession through extended market development cycle, demonstrating that conviction and patience can overcome slow initial adoption in creating new categories.
  • A founder who grew up in a Brazilian favela built Pismo into global banking infrastructure, selling to Visa for one billion dollars cash after seven years of development.
  • A founder who grew up in a Brazilian favela built Pismo into global banking infrastructure, selling to Visa for one billion dollars cash after seven years of development.
  • Marc Benioff exemplifies sustained founder engagement after twenty-five years, actively driving AI transformation at Salesforce while maintaining cultural values through Ohana philosophy and one percent giving model.

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