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The end of Venture Capital? (VC Roundtable) | E2285

83 min episode · 3 min read
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Michael Eisenberg,Mike Granoff,Larry Covert

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83 min

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3 min

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Key Takeaways

  • VC Concentration Math: Five US firms captured 73.1% of all LP commitments in Q1, up from 12 firms capturing 75% previously. Smaller funds can survive by maintaining double the ownership stakes of larger firms. Ownership percentage is the critical variable — dilution from oversized cap stacks means IPO returns fail to cover losses, breaking the asymmetric upside model that makes venture capital function mathematically.
  • Two-Tier VC Strategy: The industry is splitting into Consensus VC (large firms deploying index-like capital) and Traditional VC (sub-$500M funds taking concentrated, high-conviction bets on non-obvious founders). Smaller funds should target LP bases outside major financial centers — Oxcart raised from large Southern family offices with zero prior venture exposure by traveling the "Southern smile" from Southern California to South Carolina.
  • AI Gross Margin Risk: ARR figures from AI companies obscure negative or thin gross margins because token and compute costs are not software margins. Cursor reportedly ran negative 23% gross margins during rapid growth. Founders and investors should model compute costs as a rising variable tied to energy prices, not a declining one, since grid infrastructure scales far slower than semiconductor demand.
  • Edge AI vs. Data Center: Models trained on real-world data outperform simulation-trained equivalents at a fraction of the size — Nexar's Badass 2.0 model beats NVIDIA's Cosmos by 2.5-3x while being an order of magnitude smaller. Founders building AI products should evaluate whether their use case can run on edge CPUs (Apple M-series, Snapdragon at 50-80 TOPS on 15 watts) rather than defaulting to expensive cloud GPU inference.
  • Defense Tech Valuation Caution: The drone sector now has over 2,000 companies, mirroring the 200 bomb-resistant vehicle firms that emerged during Iraq/Afghanistan — most were absorbed or failed while legacy primes like BAE and Oshkosh waited and acquired best-in-class technology. Investors entering defense tech should prioritize non-obvious infrastructure plays adjacent to national security rather than competing in crowded drone or kinetic hardware categories at inflated valuations.

What It Covers

Three venture capitalists — Michael Eisenberg (Aleph VC), Mike Granoff (Muneeb), and Larry Covert (Oxcart Ventures) — examine how five US firms capturing 73.1% of Q1 LP commitments signals either the end of venture capital as a craft business or a cyclical concentration wave, while debating AI compute costs, autonomous vehicles, defense tech, and global supply chain realignment.

Key Questions Answered

  • VC Concentration Math: Five US firms captured 73.1% of all LP commitments in Q1, up from 12 firms capturing 75% previously. Smaller funds can survive by maintaining double the ownership stakes of larger firms. Ownership percentage is the critical variable — dilution from oversized cap stacks means IPO returns fail to cover losses, breaking the asymmetric upside model that makes venture capital function mathematically.
  • Two-Tier VC Strategy: The industry is splitting into Consensus VC (large firms deploying index-like capital) and Traditional VC (sub-$500M funds taking concentrated, high-conviction bets on non-obvious founders). Smaller funds should target LP bases outside major financial centers — Oxcart raised from large Southern family offices with zero prior venture exposure by traveling the "Southern smile" from Southern California to South Carolina.
  • AI Gross Margin Risk: ARR figures from AI companies obscure negative or thin gross margins because token and compute costs are not software margins. Cursor reportedly ran negative 23% gross margins during rapid growth. Founders and investors should model compute costs as a rising variable tied to energy prices, not a declining one, since grid infrastructure scales far slower than semiconductor demand.
  • Edge AI vs. Data Center: Models trained on real-world data outperform simulation-trained equivalents at a fraction of the size — Nexar's Badass 2.0 model beats NVIDIA's Cosmos by 2.5-3x while being an order of magnitude smaller. Founders building AI products should evaluate whether their use case can run on edge CPUs (Apple M-series, Snapdragon at 50-80 TOPS on 15 watts) rather than defaulting to expensive cloud GPU inference.
  • Defense Tech Valuation Caution: The drone sector now has over 2,000 companies, mirroring the 200 bomb-resistant vehicle firms that emerged during Iraq/Afghanistan — most were absorbed or failed while legacy primes like BAE and Oshkosh waited and acquired best-in-class technology. Investors entering defense tech should prioritize non-obvious infrastructure plays adjacent to national security rather than competing in crowded drone or kinetic hardware categories at inflated valuations.
  • Allied Supply Chain Realignment: Global supply chains are permanently restructuring around sovereign allied networks rather than cost-optimized globalist ones. The UAE is building a 5-gigawatt data center accessible to US companies and NVIDIA chips. Founders in hardware, defense, and materials should map their supply chains now against allied-nation sourcing, as adversarial dependencies in semiconductors, rare earths, and critical components face increasing regulatory and geopolitical disruption over the next decade.

Notable Moment

Michael Eisenberg argued that the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange will become the equivalent of Nasdaq for the current decade — the destination for mid-sized hardware, defense, and materials companies that cannot meet the $10B+ valuation threshold now effectively required to list on US exchanges, citing its status as the top-performing stock index over three years.

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Episode Transcript

We may be at the end of the venture capital industry. Five US firms captured 73.1% of all LP commits in the first quarter of this year. This is the era of consensus capital. Basically, the end of a fifty, sixty year run of an industry or a craft business. And that's won't be the first time that a craft business has gone extinct. I don't think that the, demand for medium sized firms is is going to disappear. It probably will increase. It's difficult to make returns work at a very high, level, and then it's also, I think, difficult for founders to, you know, work with, enormous behemoths of, a venture firm. The math may just cease working in the venture capital business. This Week in Startups is brought to you by Grasshopper Bank. Time is money. Don't waste either. Go to grasshopper.bank/twist and get an exclusive $500 cash bonus just for opening an account. PaperOS. Building an empire? PaperOS offers the largest library of AI driven workflows for both founders and fund managers. Whether you're raising capital, launching a fund, or waiting through diligence, PaperOS unlocks simplicity and scale for your ever growing empire. Claim your $10,000 credit at paperos.com/twist. And LinkedIn jobs, hire right the first time. Post your first job and get $100 off towards your job post at linkedin.com/twist. Hello, and welcome back to Twist. My name is Alex. Today is a venture capital roundtable, and I have brought three of the smartest minds in the entire world of VC right here. But today is Wednesday, May 6, or as Jason says, a o 100. So we're now a hundred days after we all got claw peeled. Now before I introduce our guests, I do wanna say that we here at Twist are absolutely obsessed with our applaud pins. We talked about it on the show ad nauseam for the last couple of months because we can't stop using them. If you are someone who takes notes, talks to themselves, goes to a lot of meetings, does a lot of phone calls, I cannot say this enough. You should try out Ploud. They're fantastic. And if you go to Ploud, plaud,.ai/twist, use the ghost twist, save 10%, get yourself a Ploud note pen s. Jason's obsessed, and thus, the entire launch team uses them. Alright. Thanks for that. Guys, glad to have you here. In one corner, we have Michael Eisenberg from Aleph VC. Michael, how are you doing? Good, Alex. How are you? I'm good, man. We also have, we have Mike, Granoff from Muneeb. How are you doing? I'm great. Thanks for having me, Alex. And we sent you that mic and it made all the way from, you said, LA to Israel to London. Well, why are you taking our equipment around the world, man? Well, it's hard to send things into Israel on a timely basis, and, I happened to go in LA. So you sent it to me there, …

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  • by Apple

    Founders building AI products should evaluate whether their use case can run on edge CPUs (Apple M-series, Snapdragon at 50-80 TOPS on 15 watts)
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    Founders building AI products should evaluate whether their use case can run on edge CPUs (Apple M-series, Snapdragon at 50-80 TOPS on 15 watts)

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  • by Nexar

    Nexar's Badass 2.0 model beats NVIDIA's Cosmos by 2.5-3x while being an order of magnitude smaller.
  • by NVIDIA

    Nexar's Badass 2.0 model beats NVIDIA's Cosmos by 2.5-3x while being an order of magnitude smaller.

company

  • Michael Eisenberg (Aleph VC)
  • Mike Granoff (Muneeb)
  • Larry Covert (Oxcart Ventures)
  • most were absorbed or failed while legacy primes like BAE and Oshkosh waited and acquired best-in-class technology.
  • most were absorbed or failed while legacy primes like BAE and Oshkosh waited and acquired best-in-class technology.
  • The UAE is building a 5-gigawatt data center accessible to US companies and NVIDIA chips.
  • Michael Eisenberg argued that the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange will become the equivalent of Nasdaq for the current decade

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