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Should I Take on a Leadership Role Again? (I Failed Last Time)

50 min episode · 2 min read
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50 min

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2 min

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Health & Wellness, Relationships, Startups

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Key Takeaways

  • Leading older employees after failure: Schedule regular one-on-one accountability meetings every one to two weeks, lasting thirty minutes. Use this time to build relationships, understand personal circumstances, identify blockers to remove, and provide course corrections. Frame the relationship as mutual learning where you tap into their experience while helping them succeed, explicitly asking for their help in the process.
  • Vision casting through shared goals: Avoid imposing quotas. Instead, facilitate team meetings where everyone participates in creating a desired future together. Ask what needs to change from last year to reach new heights. Identify five defining objectives required to achieve the shared goal. This collaborative approach generates buy-in because the team owns the vision rather than having it announced from above.
  • Evaluating family business rescue missions: Before committing a decade to save a struggling family business, demand complete clarity on the end game. Document in writing the timeline for debt elimination, partner buyout terms, and your eventual ownership percentage. Without this agreement, you risk years of sacrifice with no guaranteed outcome. The emotional pull to help family must be balanced with business reality.
  • Restructuring distressed business debt: When a business loses two million annually against one million in profits, the path forward requires selling underperforming assets at book value, converting bank debt to private loans with partners, and creating a three-year payback plan. This stops the bleeding and provides a realistic timeline for recovery, but only works if all parties commit to the restructuring plan.
  • Managing businesses remotely: Train managers to finish your sentences and make decisions using your framework by asking what would you do in each situation. Maintain weekly communication rhythms through calls and quarterly video meetings. Accept that maintaining current revenue is success, not expecting twenty-seven percent growth. Remote management works for operations but struggles when market shifts require vision and strategic pivots only the founder typically sees.

What It Covers

Dave Ramsey addresses three leadership scenarios: Tyler, 29, seeks advice on leading older team members after a previous failed attempt; Cole, 26, weighs whether to rescue his father's struggling trucking business while running his own property management company; and Luis manages his contracting business remotely from Guatemala while serving as a missionary.

Key Questions Answered

  • Leading older employees after failure: Schedule regular one-on-one accountability meetings every one to two weeks, lasting thirty minutes. Use this time to build relationships, understand personal circumstances, identify blockers to remove, and provide course corrections. Frame the relationship as mutual learning where you tap into their experience while helping them succeed, explicitly asking for their help in the process.
  • Vision casting through shared goals: Avoid imposing quotas. Instead, facilitate team meetings where everyone participates in creating a desired future together. Ask what needs to change from last year to reach new heights. Identify five defining objectives required to achieve the shared goal. This collaborative approach generates buy-in because the team owns the vision rather than having it announced from above.
  • Evaluating family business rescue missions: Before committing a decade to save a struggling family business, demand complete clarity on the end game. Document in writing the timeline for debt elimination, partner buyout terms, and your eventual ownership percentage. Without this agreement, you risk years of sacrifice with no guaranteed outcome. The emotional pull to help family must be balanced with business reality.
  • Restructuring distressed business debt: When a business loses two million annually against one million in profits, the path forward requires selling underperforming assets at book value, converting bank debt to private loans with partners, and creating a three-year payback plan. This stops the bleeding and provides a realistic timeline for recovery, but only works if all parties commit to the restructuring plan.
  • Managing businesses remotely: Train managers to finish your sentences and make decisions using your framework by asking what would you do in each situation. Maintain weekly communication rhythms through calls and quarterly video meetings. Accept that maintaining current revenue is success, not expecting twenty-seven percent growth. Remote management works for operations but struggles when market shifts require vision and strategic pivots only the founder typically sees.

Notable Moment

When Cole revealed his father's trucking company acquired an Alaska operation that loses two million dollars annually while the core business only makes one million, Ramsey calculated the rescue mission would consume a full decade of Cole's life just to break even, with no guarantee of ownership or compensation at the end of that grueling turnaround journey.

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Episode Transcript

From the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, this is Andre Leadership, where I take calls from leaders like you about what it takes to win at any stage of business and leadership. I'm Dave Ramsey, your host with over thirty years of experience leading in the trenches right alongside you. If you got a question you wanna ask on the show, fill out the form at entreeleadership.com/ ask or call and leave us a number, and, we'll get to you and put you on. The phone number here is (844) 944-1070. That's (844) 944-1070. Tyler is in Naples, Florida. Hi, Tyler. How are you? Dave, I'm doing well. Thanks for taking my call. How are you? Better than I deserve. What's up? So I had, I was hoping to get some advice from you. I am entertaining a, new position at my company, and it would be a a leadership position, in the company. And and, specifically, one of the per one of the person that would be on my team, is older than I am, and I had an experience earlier in my tenure at the same company, in a leadership role. Was leading a guy, that was older than me as well, and it didn't, didn't go so well. It was very, very challenging to to build trust and and relationships, with the guy that was on my team. And just wanted to see if you had any advice from me for me on what I could do, differently, this go around. How old are you? 29. Okay. What type of business is this? It's a, general contractor. Okay. So the guy that you're leading, what's he do that's all He is on the he he's on the sales team, and and so am I. And so he would he would be a sales rep, and I would be leading, this specific industry, that they want me to to focus on. Okay. Alright. And, how long ago was the other experience? Eighteen months, twenty four months ago. Okay. And what happened? What was the end of that? The company hit a little bit of a rough road, and the position that I was in was, I guess, pseudo eliminated. And so they I was asked to just go back into the field as a sales rep, which I did. And another opportunity has has come along since then. Where'd the guy go that you had trouble with before? He is still with the company, but reports to someone differently now. Okay. What happened? What do you think went wrong? Yeah. I I don't want to I don't wanna make assumptions, but it it just felt like like, it it was hard to get over the barrier or or so it felt of of the age gap be between us. You know, I I tried to I tried to do what's best for him. I tried to lead with a with a servant's heart. But, you know, every time we …

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