Most Replayed Moment: Fear Is A Skill You Can Train! Lessons From The World's Greatest Climber

If your kids came to you, you have two girls. Right? Yeah. If they came to you and said, dad, like, give me advice on what I should aim at in life, would you tell them? No. I wouldn't I wouldn't give them advice. I'd be like, you do you. You find the thing you love to do, go hard. You know, basically, like, learn some skills, get good at something, like, what do you like to do? I mean, that's kind of the thing for me, especially with climbing is, like, if someone had told me, like, you're gonna train climbing for the rest of your life, I'd be like, oh, that sounds like kind of a grind, you know? Because I mean, it is it is hard work. You're, like, hiking uphill with a heavy backpack and it's cold and it's windy. It's like, it's basically physically uncomfortable. I mean, being a professional rock climber means that you're physically uncomfortable all the time, like like, often, you know? Like, it's, you know, it's hard. Yeah. But if you're doing it because you freaking love doing it, it doesn't feel very hard. And so, I mean, I think the key for a kid is to find the thing that doesn't feel like hard work. And when you started, were you scared of of big, tall rock faces and stuff like that? I mean, yeah. I had, like, a healthy intimidation of the I mean, like, my first season in East 70, the first time seeing El Cap as a climber, I was 19. And it looks impossible. It looks completely insane. I was like, that's so big. But then, you know, within a couple seasons, you know, I climbed some bigger walls, learned how to climb, and then a friend and I had the sort of season goal, like, we were gonna climb Yosemite all season with the aspiration at the end to climb El Cap in a day. So basically, there was this long progression on El Cap specifically where it's like you go from just trying to get up it, to trying to get up up faster, to trying to get up it with just your hands and feet, still using protection. But basically, there's like all these steps you can take. And so over a bunch of seasons, you know, I climbed El Cap like 60 times, different routes, all these different things. And then eventually, you're sort of like, oh, maybe I can start thinking about free soloing it, which is where the film Free Solo comes in. And then eventually, you do this thing. But then people are like, well, aren't you scared? And you're kind of like, woah, I've spent ten years, like, building up on this thing. I guess that's what people don't see. Yeah. So they just I mean, like, the documentary Free Solo, I think, does a pretty good job of showing the the direct preparation, like, the training involved …