Why Bert Kreischer Thinks He Needs a Stoic Coach
Episode
37 min
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2 min
Topics
Productivity, Health & Wellness, Relationships
AI-Generated Summary
Key Takeaways
- ✓Sobriety and the Witching Hour: Kreischer identifies 5pm as his most vulnerable time for drinking urges during sobriety periods. He manages this by scheduling standup performances or deliberately staying busy during these hours. His health scare requiring blood thinners forced a different approach to sobriety than his typical one-to-three month breaks, requiring six months of abstinence and long-term thinking about alcohol consumption patterns.
- ✓Redefining Success Metrics: When facing potential disappointment about Free Bert's Netflix performance, Holiday suggests evaluating success through controllable factors first: Did you enjoy making it? Did you improve as an actor? Did you say what you wanted? Did you earn money? This framework places audience reception as the fifteenth layer of success rather than the primary measure, reducing dependence on external validation.
- ✓The Blinders Effect: Kreischer observes that sobriety opens peripheral vision while hangovers create tunnel vision. Walking through Central Park sober, he noticed trees, rocks, and felt expansive enough to send videos to his daughters. In contrast, a hungover dog walker exhibited narrow focus, consumed only by immediate discomfort. This awareness difference affects creative output and life appreciation beyond just physical recovery.
- ✓Exercise Bulimia Pattern: Kreischer admits to using punishing workouts as penance for drinking, a pattern his sister calls hypogymnasia and Dr. Drew labels exercise bulimia. He acknowledges working out harder when hungover, using shame as motivation with self-talk like you earned this punishment. This cycle creates dependency on the guilt-workout-endorphin loop rather than establishing sustainable healthy habits without the drinking component.
- ✓Controlling the News Cycle: Holiday demonstrates discipline by not checking his New York Times bestseller ranking immediately upon waking. Instead, he swam, journaled, and completed his morning routine before looking at results. This approach ensures a good morning regardless of news outcome, preventing external results from hijacking emotional state. Kreischer contrasts this by obsessively checking Netflix rankings at 6am despite knowing numbers arrive later.
What It Covers
Comedian Bert Kreischer discusses his relationship with sobriety, success metrics, and managing external validation with Ryan Holiday. Kreischer shares his struggle with the witching hour at 5pm, his health-induced six-month sobriety period, and how he processes the Netflix debut of his show Free Bert at number two on the trending chart.
Key Questions Answered
- •Sobriety and the Witching Hour: Kreischer identifies 5pm as his most vulnerable time for drinking urges during sobriety periods. He manages this by scheduling standup performances or deliberately staying busy during these hours. His health scare requiring blood thinners forced a different approach to sobriety than his typical one-to-three month breaks, requiring six months of abstinence and long-term thinking about alcohol consumption patterns.
- •Redefining Success Metrics: When facing potential disappointment about Free Bert's Netflix performance, Holiday suggests evaluating success through controllable factors first: Did you enjoy making it? Did you improve as an actor? Did you say what you wanted? Did you earn money? This framework places audience reception as the fifteenth layer of success rather than the primary measure, reducing dependence on external validation.
- •The Blinders Effect: Kreischer observes that sobriety opens peripheral vision while hangovers create tunnel vision. Walking through Central Park sober, he noticed trees, rocks, and felt expansive enough to send videos to his daughters. In contrast, a hungover dog walker exhibited narrow focus, consumed only by immediate discomfort. This awareness difference affects creative output and life appreciation beyond just physical recovery.
- •Exercise Bulimia Pattern: Kreischer admits to using punishing workouts as penance for drinking, a pattern his sister calls hypogymnasia and Dr. Drew labels exercise bulimia. He acknowledges working out harder when hungover, using shame as motivation with self-talk like you earned this punishment. This cycle creates dependency on the guilt-workout-endorphin loop rather than establishing sustainable healthy habits without the drinking component.
- •Controlling the News Cycle: Holiday demonstrates discipline by not checking his New York Times bestseller ranking immediately upon waking. Instead, he swam, journaled, and completed his morning routine before looking at results. This approach ensures a good morning regardless of news outcome, preventing external results from hijacking emotional state. Kreischer contrasts this by obsessively checking Netflix rankings at 6am despite knowing numbers arrive later.
Notable Moment
Kreischer describes nearly being killed by a 400-pound palm frond in Naples, Florida that missed his head by one inch. A French passerby told him he was lucky to be alive. Kreischer reflects that his sense of having a second chance at life lasted only thirty minutes before returning to normal patterns.
Episode Transcript
Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world. Hey. It's Ryan. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic Podcast. You know, it's it's hard to put stuff out in the world. Right? You work really hard on something, then you put it out there, and then other people get a say. Right? They decide whether they're gonna laugh at the joke or not. They decide whether they're gonna buy the thing you're selling or not. They decide whether to vote for you. And that's really hard. Right? In a way, it challenges one of the most important principles in stoicism, which is to not care about things that are not in your control. And and that is outside your control, and yet you can't do your job well or be compensated for that job if if you can't figure out a way to both care and not care. I don't know. It's it's a challenge. So when I had Burt Kreischer on the podcast, this is one of the things we talked about because his new show, Free Burt, had just come out. Like, I heard him walk in. I was sitting in the back of the studio working on something. I heard him come in, and he was just hearing from, like, people on his team about where it had landed, like, how it was doing on Netflix. Like, because Netflix in real time is showing, like, what the most popular stuff is. Right? In some ways, Netflix is a black box. They don't tell you exactly how many downloads or how something's doing. Like with Amazon, you know, there's a ranking and you obviously wanna do well on that ranking. It's really challenging. Right? It makes you vulnerable. Even if you think what you did is awesome, well, now there's a big thumbs up or a big thumbs down telling you whether that's true or not. So that was something we talked about on the episode. This is part two, and he had just found out that he had debuted at number two, which was well deserved because it's a great show. Samantha and I watched all six episodes. I thought it was really funny. And in part two of my interview with Bert, we talk about why he wants a Seneca in his life, his definition of success, his current sobriety, and as we're just talking about, not letting other people's opinions determine your mood or your sense of whether you did a good job or not. And, of course, he tells some insane stories. If you didn't listen to part one, you should. You could start with that. But Bert Kreischer is a stand up comedian and actor. He's the host of Two Bears One Cave. You can watch his movie The Machine on Netflix and then his new show Free Bert. He is a touring stand up comic, …
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