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Do You Think They Liked It?

3 min episode · 2 min read

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3 min

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2 min

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Productivity, Health & Wellness, Personal Finance

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Key Takeaways

  • Discipline as action: Virtue requires doing what you should do regardless of desire or convenience. Even Marcus Aurelius struggled to wake early and maintain strict standards, proving that difficulty persists regardless of experience, wealth, or philosophical knowledge. The challenge itself defines the virtue.
  • Control dichotomy application: When plans fail due to external factors like illness or weather, focus energy on what remains controllable—getting back on track. Dwelling on uncontrollable setbacks wastes effort, while redirecting attention to personal response and recovery creates forward momentum despite rough starts.
  • Delayed gratification mindset: Stoicism prioritizes how you feel after completing difficult tasks over momentary comfort during execution. The satisfaction comes from having done hard things, not from the process itself. This reframe transforms resistance into motivation by focusing on post-completion benefits rather than present discomfort.
  • Consistency through challenge: Philosophy manifests through sustained practice during difficult periods, not just favorable conditions. Fighting to become what philosophy envisions requires rejecting excuses from your tired, entitled self and maintaining standards when circumstances make quitting tempting. Persistence through adversity builds character more than easy compliance.

What It Covers

Marcus Aurelius struggled with discipline despite his power and philosophical training. True virtue means doing difficult things you don't want to do, pushing through resistance and excuses, and choosing the harder path over the easy one consistently.

Key Questions Answered

  • Discipline as action: Virtue requires doing what you should do regardless of desire or convenience. Even Marcus Aurelius struggled to wake early and maintain strict standards, proving that difficulty persists regardless of experience, wealth, or philosophical knowledge. The challenge itself defines the virtue.
  • Control dichotomy application: When plans fail due to external factors like illness or weather, focus energy on what remains controllable—getting back on track. Dwelling on uncontrollable setbacks wastes effort, while redirecting attention to personal response and recovery creates forward momentum despite rough starts.
  • Delayed gratification mindset: Stoicism prioritizes how you feel after completing difficult tasks over momentary comfort during execution. The satisfaction comes from having done hard things, not from the process itself. This reframe transforms resistance into motivation by focusing on post-completion benefits rather than present discomfort.
  • Consistency through challenge: Philosophy manifests through sustained practice during difficult periods, not just favorable conditions. Fighting to become what philosophy envisions requires rejecting excuses from your tired, entitled self and maintaining standards when circumstances make quitting tempting. Persistence through adversity builds character more than easy compliance.

Notable Moment

Marcus Aurelius wrote in Meditations about his own struggle to get out of bed early, revealing that even the most disciplined philosophical emperor faced daily resistance to basic virtuous actions, proving mastery never eliminates difficulty.

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Episode Transcript

Welcome to the daily stoic podcast designed to help bring those four key stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world. Do you think they liked it? Do you think Marcus Aurelius liked getting up early? Do you think he liked being patient with people? Do you think he liked the strict standards, physical and moral and intellectual, that he held himself to? Of course not. We know that he struggled to get out of bed early. He writes about it in Meditations. We know there were things that he would have liked to say to the people who were bothering him. Obviously, it would have been easier in many ways to be more like his predecessors, who used their title and office to get away with whatever they wanted. It it didn't matter who he was. It didn't matter how much money or power he had, how well he was steeped in the philosophy or how long he practiced the habit. It was still hard Because that's what philosophy is about, what discipline is is a virtue. It's doing things you don't wanna do. It's doing things because they're hard. It's doing the harder thing instead of the easy thing. It's sticking with it when you don't wanna quit. It's pushing through the resistance. It's not giving in to the excuses. It it's fighting, as Marcus Aurelius tried to do, to be what philosophy hoped you would be, not what your tired or exhausted or entitled self would like to be. Discipline, as we said, is doing it anyway. It's not doing what you ought not to do. And this isn't always gonna be fun, and it's not always going to be easy, but that's what makes it a virtue. I don't know where you are in your year, but mine got off to a little bit of a rough start. And it would be easy to sort of throw in the towel and be like, ugh, bad start, and just continue to get worse from there. But one of the things I'm trying to do is go, no. Okay. I didn't control that we all got sick, that there were plans, now there's this big storm here in Texas. I don't control any of that, but I do control whether I get myself back on track, and that's what I'm doing. And that's what we're doing with the twenty twenty six daily stoic new year new you challenge. We ran it the first three weeks of the year. We had thousands of Stoics all over the world doing it together. It was awesome, but not everyone made it all the way through. Some people fell off. Some people wish they'd done it, but they missed out. And, if you are one of those people, well, it's not too late. We're gonna give it another go, and we'd love to have you with us. You can sign up right now at dailystoic.com/challenge. It's gonna be three …

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    Marcus Aurelius wrote in Meditations about his own struggle to get out of bed early, revealing that even the most disciplined philosophical emperor faced daily resistance to basic virtuous actions.

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