Bringing Atuin to the desktop (Interview)

All right. Welcome. You are listening to the change log, where each week we interview the hackers, the leaders, and the innovators of the software world. We pick their brains. We learn from their failures. We get inspired by their accomplishments, and we have a lot of fun along the way. On this episode, I'm joined by Ellie Huxtable whose magical shell syncing, searching, and backing up our shell history with ease. Now Eli is tackling the desktop with a tower based app built to help teams make their workflows repeatable, shareable, and reliable. But first, a big thank you to our partners at fly.io, the public cloud built for developers who'd like to ship. We love Fly. You might too. Learn more about it at fly.io. Okay. Eli Huxtable back on the change log. Let's do it. Well, friends, I am here with a new friend of mine, Scott Deaton, CEO of Augment Code. I'm excited about this. Augment taps into your team's collective knowledge, your code base, your documentation, your dependencies. It is the most context aware developer AI, so you won't just code faster. You also build smarter. It's an ask me anything for your code. It's your deep thinking buddy. It's your stand flow antidote. Okay, Scott. So for the foreseeable future, AI assisted is here to stay. It's just a matter of getting the AI to be a better assistant. And in particular, I want help on the thinking part, not not necessarily the coding part. Can you speak to the thinking problem versus the coding problem and the potential false dichotomy there? Couple of different points to make. You know, AIs have gotten good at making incremental changes at least when they understand customer software. So first, and the biggest limitation that these AI's have today, they really don't understand anything about your code base. If you take GitHub Copilot, for example, it's like a fresh college graduate, understands some programming languages and algorithms, but doesn't understand what you're trying to do. And as a result of that, something like two thirds of the community on average drops off of the product, especially the expert developers. Augment is different. We use retrieval augmented generation to deeply mine the knowledge that's inherent inside your code base. So we are a Copilot that is an expert, and they can help you navigate a code base, help you find issues, and fix them, and resolve them over time much more quickly than you can, trying to tutor up a novice on your software. So you're often compared to GitHub Copilot. I gotta imagine that you have a hot take. What's your hot take on GitHub Copilot? I think it was a great one dot o product, and I think they've done a a huge, service in promoting AI, but I think the game has changed. We have moved from AIs that are new college graduates to, in effect, AIs that are now among you the best developers …