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Is Your Through Line Costing You Business?

18 min episode · 2 min read

Episode

18 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Career Growth, Productivity, Relationships

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Key Takeaways

  • Clean Intention Over Manipulation: Charlie Puth collaborated with Kenny G and Michael McDonald from genuine respect and admiration, not to win awards or boost his career. Sales professionals should examine whether their through line is "what do I need to say or do to get the business" versus approaching prospects to genuinely help them solve problems without manipulative techniques.
  • Persistent Picture Painting: When Charlie Puth initially contacted Kenny G with a basic audio track and received no response, he elevated his approach by adding a choir and fuller production. Sales professionals should invest in creating vivid demonstrations of what working together looks like, sending multiple examples on their own dime rather than withholding information or requiring prospects to earn it first.
  • Collaboration as Through Line: Musicians hold meetings before playing together to align on preferences and roles, contrasting with the lone gunman sales approach. When collaboration becomes the through line instead of wrestling for a deal, velocity and momentum build naturally. This involves bringing in experts, strategic partners, and multiple stakeholders from the client side rather than battling one-on-one with a single contact.
  • Generosity in Outreach: Charlie Puth sent Kenny G partially completed work that could have been stolen, demonstrating trust and abundance mindset. In an era where information is ubiquitous through Google and AI tools, the old Sandler approach of not spilling your candy in the lobby no longer applies. Sales professionals should freely share expertise and examples during the prospecting process to stand out.

What It Covers

Sales hosts Bill Caskey and Brian Neale examine how traditional sales methodologies contain a manipulative through line focused on closing deals rather than genuine collaboration. They use musician Charlie Puth's approach to working with Kenny G as a model for cleaner sales intentions.

Key Questions Answered

  • Clean Intention Over Manipulation: Charlie Puth collaborated with Kenny G and Michael McDonald from genuine respect and admiration, not to win awards or boost his career. Sales professionals should examine whether their through line is "what do I need to say or do to get the business" versus approaching prospects to genuinely help them solve problems without manipulative techniques.
  • Persistent Picture Painting: When Charlie Puth initially contacted Kenny G with a basic audio track and received no response, he elevated his approach by adding a choir and fuller production. Sales professionals should invest in creating vivid demonstrations of what working together looks like, sending multiple examples on their own dime rather than withholding information or requiring prospects to earn it first.
  • Collaboration as Through Line: Musicians hold meetings before playing together to align on preferences and roles, contrasting with the lone gunman sales approach. When collaboration becomes the through line instead of wrestling for a deal, velocity and momentum build naturally. This involves bringing in experts, strategic partners, and multiple stakeholders from the client side rather than battling one-on-one with a single contact.
  • Generosity in Outreach: Charlie Puth sent Kenny G partially completed work that could have been stolen, demonstrating trust and abundance mindset. In an era where information is ubiquitous through Google and AI tools, the old Sandler approach of not spilling your candy in the lobby no longer applies. Sales professionals should freely share expertise and examples during the prospecting process to stand out.

Notable Moment

Kenny G stayed two hours after a concert to sign autographs for roughly a thousand attendees, then played a background role at the Super Bowl without demanding camera time or solo moments, exemplifying collaborative humility over ego-driven self-promotion in high-profile opportunities.

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Episode Transcript

Welcome everybody to the Advanced Selling Podcast, the longest running sales training podcast in the history of podcasts. My name is Brian Neil. My name is Bill Kasky. We are here every week for your listening enjoyment. Glad that you found us. If you're new, welcome. You've gotta catch up. You need to binge about 1,200 episodes or so to reach up to today. You'll listen to our voices change over twenty almost twenty years of doing this, which is great. Oh, they don't. They don't keep an inch. It is. They do. You don't think they do, but they do. And if you haven't already, join the insider. If you're watching this on YouTube, it says it says the insider membership right in front of you. Just go to the advanced selling podcast, join the insider program, live coaching. It's live. It's real in person stuff with my friend Bill. And, best bang for your buck. I say it all the time. It is. Last last month, we talked about, mindset and how important it is for us, first off, to ditch the old mindsets that hold us back and then which new ones could we adopt. So it was more like a cleansing before we renewed. Mhmm. And it was really good. We had some great feedback and it was pretty it was pretty steep. I mean it wasn't just, you know, be more positive, it was a little bit a little bit deeper than that. So if you wanna get access to that recording, you can join. You get previous, I think the previous six months recording. So go to advancesellingpodcast.com/insider. We'll talk more about March's event a little bit later. So I've you know, you're a music lover. Lover. Lover. You and I could probably sit around and have before. I think, remember one time I went to Chicago and we talked about music the whole way and back and then hitting the vocals, how to DJ properly. I looked up hitting the vocals today because Jane was saying, I I talk a lot when there's TV show on and I'll say, you know, I don't know about her. I, you know, what and she goes, would you would you kindly just shut up? I mean, I'm trying to listen and you keep talking. I bet you talk I bet when you were a DJ, you talked all over the song. Like, oh, no. I hit the vocals, baby. I hit the vocals. We call that hitting the hook sometimes. Yeah. That's what they say. We're gonna hit the hook. We know that, I Need a Lover by John Mellen Campus 02/21 today. So just so It's a long it's a long one. Yeah. It is. So anyway, I'm going to play for you in the in the spirit of music. I'm gonna play for you in, the last twenty two seconds of a song that I don't I don't know if you'll know it or …

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