690: Steve Ruiz and tldraw

Hey there. Shop with me. Actually, you're listening to another episode of Shop dot Show podcast, front end, web design, development, all kinds of things. I'm Dave Rupert with Chris Coyer. Hey, Chris. How are you doing today? No. I'm doing absolutely I'm doing infinitely good, I would say. Oh, wow. That's how good I'm doing. We have a special guest, this week who I'm excited to talk to because he makes cool products along with his team. At TL draw, we have, Steve Steve Ruiz. Right? From from did I say it right? No. I think Ruiz, but, Ruiz. My my Spanish friends say, no. No. No. You're spell you're saying that wrong. It's Greek, you know, and everything. I'm like, oh, it's complicated. It's, Colombian via the Midwest. Or friends tell you it's wrong. Yeah. I mean, I have a last name, Coir, that ends in e r that's French, and people are like, it's Coir. I'm like, you know what? You're probably right, actually. It's my name. But yeah. Yeah. I sort of get a call the shots on my name. I'm I'm sorry. Yeah. Well, it says the the person with a, Anglophone compatible. Yeah. I'm like, Lord, British the third over here. Jesus. I ordered a cow. Two first names, oh my god. Yeah. Well, yeah. Thanks for having me on. I, I was saying just before we had recorded that I I probably listened to like over a 100, episodes of ShopTalk. It used to be a big part of the my my technical podcast rotation. So yeah, it's great to be on and chatting with you guys in person. Well, it's our pleasure for sure. Yeah. I use TL draw all the time. Oh, really? I didn't know what I mean. Well, this is maybe getting too far ahead, but there's just stuff like, I can just do it in my editor. I can be like new TL draw and then start documenting something and then just save it as a file. That's like, dude, that architecture diagrams, all that crap, and you just like, it's there in the repo now. It's super handy from that perspective for me even just to let's just do this but visual, we're not spinning up a Figma. We're not doing all that. We're just doing it right here. Right? Exactly. That's where I was gonna go with this too. You need a URL in your head where you're like, I need to draw some shapes and some text and some arrows right now. And and there's options, and they all suck except for TL draw. Like, for real. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I I mean, they do, though, especially because, you know, you made this choice where when you get to tldraw.com, because you have some other domains that we'll get to, it's the canvas is right there. So that's great. And then there's just some simple tools and you draw and whatever. What …